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Do you think they wil give anymore or is it brick wall time? I have no idea?
They will change the wording with absolutely no change to the terms. The EU know they have the UK in a vice, and May has allowed that, Brussels has absolutely no reason to give us anything. May has proved to all and sundry that she is wiling to give in to any demand from Brussels.

Hard Brexit is the only course and the vote on Tuesday should go ahead but immediately after that then legislation should be started on hard Brexiting with absolutely no time spent on negotiation on the WA, which is worthless. This would be a good time for the Tory Grandees to tell May to go off on a permanent hull walk and get in someone competent to No10.
 
@Tired_Tech normally likes to give us his home cooked locally sourced food credentials.

I'd more imagine someone like this to enjoy a quality country pub meal than the processed shite at TGI. Cold chewy steaks etc
^see above.

last time I did a matts camp at sennyfridge I took the sqn into the railway for a meal and quiz night. Got a few free penderyns out of it.
 
no confidence in Her Majesty’s government”.


In part 2, subsection 7, it states that “the polling day for the election is to be the day appointed by Her Majesty by proclamation on the recommendation of the prime minister”.
The cabinet source pointed out that while parliament is dissolved during an election campaign, the government still exists, and the civil service can still carry out pre-existing the day appointed by Her Majesty by proclamation on the recommendation of the prime minister”.
The cabinet source pointed out that while parliament is dissolved during an election campaign, the government still exists, and the civil service can still carry out pre-existing policies.
Such an extraordinary move would be likely to cause resignations from the cabinet, with Amber Rudd, Greg Clark and David
It always amuses me how much effort so many British expats devote to rubbishing Britain from wherever they’ve washed up abroad.
It’s almost as if they have a need to convince themselves they made the right move.
I left in January 2009. I returned for family reasons in 2015 and spent 9 months in a miserable grey country populated mostly by grey anonymous people.
I seriously doubt that I would survive a UK winter. Just because I’m an expat and I chose to live in another country, does not make me any less of a British citizen. I still pay tax in UK but I do not avail myself of any UK facilities funded by those taxes.
Having spent 22+ years in service of the crown, I believe that gives me the right to choose where and how I live. It also does not preclude my commentary on this subject. I have no need to convince you or anyone else on any subject, least of all my home country. I reserve the right to speak my mind on this and any other subject, without you questioning my right to do so.
 
If your going to slag a place off at least bother to do a google search to see if it’s got a TGI, It’s has not. If it’s a hole what are you dong eating in Nando’s if your just passing though next time keep going or stop telling lies to try and be cool and hip.
fair enough. What is the other restaurant you can see from nandos? I'll confess I've never been in.

I'm not passing. I'm nearby and the group fancy chicken and chips.

I like the curry house in Brecon too.
 

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If the status quo is a known, can you spend some gtime telling me what it holds for the UK?

What about ever closer union, and the reduction of national parliaments to the equivalent of toon cooncils?
What about the call for centralised taxation, ie just hand over our money to Brussels
What about the formation of an EU army - majority of EU countries can't (or rather won't) even meet NATO commitments.
What about the constant reduction of National sovereignty - look at the way the Italian democratically elected government told to change their budget, which had been core for the election, but which they did - look at the French who were told to change their budget to fit in to EU guidelines and who basically told Brussels to foxtrot oscar! Some rules are for the plebs some for the elite?

So - what is the status quo and what is in line for the UK if we foolishly give in to the Borg and just hand over our Treasury for the EU to drain?

Now does anyone expect Baggie to actually come back with an answer to these points?
 
If the status quo is a known, can you spend some gtime telling me what it holds for the UK?

What about ever closer union, and the reduction of national parliaments to the equivalent of toon cooncils?
What about the call for centralised taxation, ie just hand over our money to Brussels
What about the formation of an EU army - majority of EU countries can't (or rather won't) even meet NATO commitments.
What about the constant reduction of National sovereignty - look at the way the Italian democratically elected government told to change their budget, which had been core for the election, but which they did - look at the French who were told to change their budget to fit in to EU guidelines and who basically told Brussels to foxtrot oscar! Some rules are for the plebs some for the elite?

So - what is the status quo and what is in line for the UK if we foolishly give in to the Borg and just hand over our Treasury for the EU to drain?

Now does anyone expect Baggie to actually come back with an answer to these points?
He hasn't before, so no.
 
It always amuses me how much effort so many British expats devote to rubbishing Britain from wherever they’ve washed up abroad.
It’s almost as if they have a need to convince themselves they made the right move.
Says the man continually rubbishing his own country from abroad.
 
Morning paddy , I’d warrant if Dunkirk hadn’t been as successful as it was the
Boxheads wouldn’t have stopped at Armagh.( or do you think Devs sucking up to the axis powers would have saved Eire, minus the Jews obviously.)
Ps you could send little Leo some Swiss confectionary, the pictures we keep seeing of him recently have him with an expression like he has been given a sloe to chew.
Paddy? Think you got me confused with another Quisling
 
no confidence in Her Majesty’s government”.


In part 2, subsection 7, it states that “the polling day for the election is to be the day appointed by Her Majesty by proclamation on the recommendation of the prime minister”.
The cabinet source pointed out that while parliament is dissolved during an election campaign, the government still exists, and the civil service can still carry out pre-existing the day appointed by Her Majesty by proclamation on the recommendation of the prime minister”.
The cabinet source pointed out that while parliament is dissolved during an election campaign, the government still exists, and the civil service can still carry out pre-existing policies.
Such an extraordinary move would be likely to cause resignations from the cabinet, with Amber Rudd, Greg Clark and David

I left in January 2009. I returned for family reasons in 2015 and spent 9 months in a miserable grey country populated mostly by grey anonymous people.
I seriously doubt that I would survive a UK winter. Just because I’m an expat and I chose to live in another country, does not make me any less of a British citizen. I still pay tax in UK but I do not avail myself of any UK facilities funded by those taxes.
Having spent 22+ years in service of the crown, I believe that gives me the right to choose where and how I live. It also does not preclude my commentary on this subject. I have no need to convince you or anyone else on any subject, least of all my home country. I reserve the right to speak my mind on this and any other subject, without you questioning my right to do so.
He's an immigrant and not questioning your right, just the rights of those who don't agree with him. He's never served BTW.
 
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It always amuses me how much effort so many British expats devote to rubbishing Britain from wherever they’ve washed up abroad.
It’s almost as if they have a need to convince themselves they made the right move.
Which part of the Republic do you hail from?
 
If the status quo is a known, can you spend some gtime telling me what it holds for the UK?

What about ever closer union, and the reduction of national parliaments to the equivalent of toon cooncils?
What about the call for centralised taxation, ie just hand over our money to Brussels
What about the formation of an EU army - majority of EU countries can't (or rather won't) even meet NATO commitments.
What about the constant reduction of National sovereignty - look at the way the Italian democratically elected government told to change their budget, which had been core for the election, but which they did - look at the French who were told to change their budget to fit in to EU guidelines and who basically told Brussels to foxtrot oscar! Some rules are for the plebs some for the elite?

So - what is the status quo and what is in line for the UK if we foolishly give in to the Borg and just hand over our Treasury for the EU to drain?

Now does anyone expect Baggie to actually come back with an answer to these points?
Hello, 2016 would like its arguments back.
 
WRONG... It doesn't matter if a people are exceptional or not, what matters is they believe it. That belief fuels social capital, that can see a nation grow together and develop the resilience to deal with problems and crises.

To believe the way you do is a trap; it strips away peoples hope and belief in change and turns them into an even more selfish person and that person can in the short term, be relied on to see the benefits of an empire (especially so, if they have the wealth and education to enjoy the benefits of belonging to an empire). But, come a problem or crisis large enough to trigger the selfish people who have zero social capital, then an inevitable scientific calc will see serious disorder.

Brexit is a chance for the UK to reset itself, before its too late. But, the establishment don't want to lose their imperial connections.
Cannot agree. A belief in exceptionalism that doesn’t exist will inevitably lead to disappointment. Then what happens to those whose beliefs turn to dust?

I’ll think it’s the older generation, and certain newspapers, that still maintain colonial delusions - not the establishment
 
I left in January 2009. I returned for family reasons in 2015 and spent 9 months in a miserable grey country populated mostly by grey anonymous people.
I seriously doubt that I would survive a UK winter. Just because I’m an expat and I chose to live in another country, does not make me any less of a British citizen. I still pay tax in UK but I do not avail myself of any UK facilities funded by those taxes.
Having spent 22+ years in service of the crown, I believe that gives me the right to choose where and how I live. It also does not preclude my commentary on this subject. I have no need to convince you or anyone else on any subject, least of all my home country. I reserve the right to speak my mind on this and any other subject, without you questioning my right to do so.
Exactly this, but far more eloquently written than I would have managed.
 
no confidence in Her Majesty’s government”.

I left in January 2009. I returned for family reasons in 2015 and spent 9 months in a miserable grey country populated mostly by grey anonymous people.
I seriously doubt that I would survive a UK winter. Just because I’m an expat and I chose to live in another country, does not make me any less of a British citizen. I still pay tax in UK but I do not avail myself of any UK facilities funded by those taxes.
Having spent 22+ years in service of the crown, I believe that gives me the right to choose where and how I live. It also does not preclude my commentary on this subject. I have no need to convince you or anyone else on any subject, least of all my home country. I reserve the right to speak my mind on this and any other subject, without you questioning my right to do so.

Any particular reason you’ve chosen to lump yourself in with the little cabal of relentlesly UK bashing expats?
 
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