Brexit Phase Two - Trade

FFS..that is all
 

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Gosh I don't normally tiptoe into this mass love-in but thought this might be of interest....British holiday firm covering their bets

BREXIT AND ITS CONSEQUENCES: There is the possibility that at some time between the date on which you book your chosen arrangements and the actual performance of those arrangements that the UK will cease to be a member state of the European Union (“Brexit”). It is further possible that various consequences of Brexit may affect the performance of our contract with you. By way of example, a change in the law (whether that is the introduction of a new law or an existing law ceasing to apply) (“Change(s) in Law”) may restrict or entirely prevent our ability to provide you with certain services that make up your chosen arrangements.

At present, the Changes in Law that we consider are most likely to occur and, in turn, affect your chosen arrangements are as follows:

a) A potential inability for the United Kingdom as a whole (and ourselves, for the purpose of this clause and your chosen arrangements) to rely on the free movement of workers and, in particular, the Posted Workers Directive. The result of this may be that we are unable to provide you with certain services that make up your chosen arrangements, such as the provision of a local representative, chalet staff, etc. b) A potential inability for British airlines to operate flights into / out of the European Union and, conversely, an inability for European airlines to operate into / out of the United Kingdom. The result of this may be that we are unable to provide you either with the flights that you have booked or indeed any replacement flights.

Should Brexit result in a Change of Law that prevents us from providing you with certain services that make up your chosen arrangements, we will:
Blah blah blah


(that's enough clauses, I feel ill. Ed )


Outside the Westminster/Salford Media bubble, British firms are having to get on with business, in an information vacuum.

I expect their Trade Association has consulted tame legal eagles who stiffed them the standard gobsmacking amount and came up with

' It beats the Hell out of us - but here's some boilerplate legalese you may care to use'


Good 'ere innit ?

< tiptoes out, softly closing stout Fire Door behind him >
 
If you think patiently pointing out what's happening to you is bitter then I'm guilty...
I think any of us 'pointing out what is happening' excluding links to tangible facts is rather a fantasy.

None of us know how this is going to play out and while we can all take a view it's likely to be drastically changed the next day.
 
Gosh I don't normally tiptoe into this mass love-in but thought this might be of interest....British holiday firm covering their bets

BREXIT AND ITS CONSEQUENCES: There is the possibility that at some time between the date on which you book your chosen arrangements and the actual performance of those arrangements that the UK will cease to be a member state of the European Union (“Brexit”). It is further possible that various consequences of Brexit may affect the performance of our contract with you. By way of example, a change in the law (whether that is the introduction of a new law or an existing law ceasing to apply) (“Change(s) in Law”) may restrict or entirely prevent our ability to provide you with certain services that make up your chosen arrangements.

At present, the Changes in Law that we consider are most likely to occur and, in turn, affect your chosen arrangements are as follows:

a) A potential inability for the United Kingdom as a whole (and ourselves, for the purpose of this clause and your chosen arrangements) to rely on the free movement of workers and, in particular, the Posted Workers Directive. The result of this may be that we are unable to provide you with certain services that make up your chosen arrangements, such as the provision of a local representative, chalet staff, etc. b) A potential inability for British airlines to operate flights into / out of the European Union and, conversely, an inability for European airlines to operate into / out of the United Kingdom. The result of this may be that we are unable to provide you either with the flights that you have booked or indeed any replacement flights.

Should Brexit result in a Change of Law that prevents us from providing you with certain services that make up your chosen arrangements, we will:
Blah blah blah


(that's enough clauses, I feel ill. Ed )


Outside the Westminster/Salford Media bubble, British firms are having to get on with business, in an information vacuum.

I expect their Trade Association has consulted tame legal eagles who stiffed them the standard gobsmacking amount and came up with

' It beats the Hell out of us - but here's some boilerplate legalese you may care to use'


Good 'ere innit ?

< tiptoes out, softly closing stout Fire Door behind him >

MY holiday firm expects no more than two weeks of transition delays No worse than during a French dockers strike .
 
MY holiday firm expects no more than two weeks of transition delays No worse than during a French dockers strike .
I wouldn't want to start to add up my additional costs in visiting my folks in Britanny over even the last decade due to our French friends deciding to hit the vino and burn stuff rather than do their job.
 
I wouldn't want to start to add up my additional costs in visiting my folks in Britanny over even the last decade due to our French friends deciding to hit the vino and burn stuff rather than do their job.

Funny, isn’t it. Summer Transport strikes are de riguer trans le Channel, but no one claims it’s the end of the world as we know it.
 
May is cool and relaxed...she is assured her place in history, she has worked tirelessly for it and is an immoveable object. Part of the plan...complete bollocks will send us down the pan...but hey, she no longer cares. Only the mongs are to blame.
 
I quite fancy having Corbyn as PM; I reckon that'll be the first unintended consequence. .

Im getting that way myself - I see on face ache a constant monologue of
Corbyn is different
May Tories = Fascists
Violent riots like in France to topple the Tories if Labour dont win nest
Corbyn will Stop Brexit
Only Corbyn and Socialism can save us from Capitalism
Corbyn has the Elites running scared that's why they lie about him
Zionist** Bankers - Corbyn stands up to them
Corbyn will deliver free Unicorns to Students
Nationalising everything will make it cheaper and better run (more chance of the unicorns) especially railways (carefully ignore rail track)
Corbyn will save the environment from capitalists.
Violence against the right is justified because well you know Nazis

Any disagreement is met with accusations of being a Tory, swallowing media lies (allways a good one - no need to debate you then, or you are "Whats wrong with the world today" and a diatribe of capitalist crimes and how capitalism Is destroying our world with profits over environment - (Dont waste time pointing to huge polluted or otherwise barren areas resulting from socialist policies).

Momentum have tacitly condoned violence against the right or indeed the wrong sort of left.

Im reaching the point that id like to see them attain power -
Then watch their acolytes as they realise politicians of any ilk are just as duplicitous.
Then watch Corbyn and co's reaction as the same tactics they quietly support (violent protest, attempts to silence opinions and Political parties they dont like) turned against them - the moment they cant live up to the hype.


**Note that's Zionists not Jews No Sirree - We only mean Zionists and we aren't using it as coded short hand for the Jews - even though they are over represented in banking and power stakes and control the media etc
 
I think the point isn't people want to vote for corbyn, but what happens if enough people stop caring whether he gets in or not.. Bitterness can do funny things to people and I would speculate a lot of established thinking about how people think and make choices will be torpedoed after a remain/EFTA sellout.
That's it exactly, I think. Stay at home, usually Tory, voters who feel let down over Brexit may let Corbyn in. I can't blame them. What have the Tories done to earn my, or any other person's, vote?
It's not just Brexit either. If you are a young person looking for a home to rent or buy, afforably, Corbyn appears to offer more.
 
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Im getting that way myself - I see on face ache a constant monologue of
Corbyn is different
May Tories = Fascists
Violent riots like in France to topple the Tories if Labour dont win nest
Corbyn will Stop Brexit
Only Corbyn and Socialism can save us from Capitalism
Corbyn has the Elites running scared that's why they lie about him
Zionist** Bankers - Corbyn stands up to them
Corbyn will deliver free Unicorns to Students
Nationalising everything will make it cheaper and better run (more chance of the unicorns) especially railways (carefully ignore rail track)
Corbyn will save the environment from capitalists.
Violence against the right is justified because well you know Nazis

Any disagreement is met with accusations of being a Tory, swallowing media lies (allways a good one - no need to debate you then, or you are "Whats wrong with the world today" and a diatribe of capitalist crimes and how capitalism Is destroying our world with profits over environment - (Dont waste time pointing to huge polluted or otherwise barren areas resulting from socialist policies).

Momentum have tacitly condoned violence against the right or indeed the wrong sort of left.

Im reaching the point that id like to see them attain power -
Then watch their acolytes as they realise politicians of any ilk are just as duplicitous.
Then watch Corbyn and co's reaction as the same tactics they quietly support (violent protest, attempts to silence opinions and Political parties they dont like) turned against them - the moment they cant live up to the hype.


**Note that's Zionists not Jews No Sirree - We only mean Zionists and we aren't using it as coded short hand for the Jews - even though they are over represented in banking and power stakes and control the media etc
I have come to the same conclusion. Younger voters need to experience a properly Socialist government. Until they do, they will not believe the warnings of older voters. Corbyn can only continue to be the messiah if he isn't made PM.
 
Not an Archetypal tory? Lee Rowley the Member for North East Derbyshire
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I get the feeling that "the other speaker was making unreasonable demands and not co-operating" The "other speaker" will vary on where you stand Labour/tory and or remain/leave, sane/insane :)

AFAIK the BBC pulled out because they could not get both sides to agree to any format that was possible. A bit like Brexit itself in many ways.

So when the ITV in their bid to be the Channel of the People got to actually have a go when the BBC retreated from the field also discovered the reality they to bailed.

OTOH It could be a devilish plot by "the other speaker" (or indeed both) to publically be very enthusiastic in giving the public the debate that they want but ensure it did not actually happen due to "the other speaker"

Does anyone thing that the 12th will go any better?
It was also an idea floated out of desperation, by May. The debate might have been very tricky for Corbyn - a (previously) committed leaver who is trying to sound as neutral as possible on the EU to keep those younger supporters who think he's pro EU on board. Whether May could have won a debate is very doubtful as she is very evasive when questioned and she can't hide it.
 
Im getting that way myself - I see on face ache a constant monologue of
Corbyn is different
May Tories = Fascists
Violent riots like in France to topple the Tories if Labour dont win nest
Corbyn will Stop Brexit
Only Corbyn and Socialism can save us from Capitalism
Corbyn has the Elites running scared that's why they lie about him
Zionist** Bankers - Corbyn stands up to them
Corbyn will deliver free Unicorns to Students
Nationalising everything will make it cheaper and better run (more chance of the unicorns) especially railways (carefully ignore rail track)
Corbyn will save the environment from capitalists.
Violence against the right is justified because well you know Nazis

Any disagreement is met with accusations of being a Tory, swallowing media lies (allways a good one - no need to debate you then, or you are "Whats wrong with the world today" and a diatribe of capitalist crimes and how capitalism Is destroying our world with profits over environment - (Dont waste time pointing to huge polluted or otherwise barren areas resulting from socialist policies).

Momentum have tacitly condoned violence against the right or indeed the wrong sort of left.

Im reaching the point that id like to see them attain power -
Then watch their acolytes as they realise politicians of any ilk are just as duplicitous.
Then watch Corbyn and co's reaction as the same tactics they quietly support (violent protest, attempts to silence opinions and Political parties they dont like) turned against them - the moment they cant live up to the hype.


**Note that's Zionists not Jews No Sirree - We only mean Zionists and we aren't using it as coded short hand for the Jews - even though they are over represented in banking and power stakes and control the media etc
I listened to a couple of financiers on the radio this morning talking about what McDonnell has publically stated in an interview - namely, that he accepts that a Corbyn/McDonnell led Labour govt will totally spook the finance/business sector which will crash the market as 'Capital Flight; occurs from the UK and that, as chancellor, he'd therefore need to immediately instigate 'Capital Controls'
- apparently, this was something another Labour govt had to do in the early 70s and it essentially meant that legal limits were put in place for how much money that you as an individual or a company could take out of the country e.g. going on holiday, as in simple terms not enough pounds sterling were left in circulation in the UK to be spent and generate taxes - so, the concern about the negative impact of Corbyn/McDonnell's Marxist policies is very real and present danger with a historical precedent.
 
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