Brexit Phase Two - Trade

Bishrub, swap that round.
Very good, but the article only says UK boats may not be able to land fish in EU ports. The reverse also applies.

It's a bit like a story in the Times today talking about how Falkland Islanders are 'in fear' of not selling their calamari to the EU - 20% of the EU's consumption - compared with stories about no more bacon sarnies in the UK after brexit. In trade there has to be a buyer and a seller.
 
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Generally the old people on this thread don't like to hear that they are a burden.
I can assure you that being a burden worries me not one jot and won't keep me awake at nights. To think I am a burden to you only increases my pleasure!
 
Interestin column in The Times by the Deputy political Editor:

Civil war that sparked Dominic Raab’s last-ditch mission to kill deal

Stand out paragrahs for me:

In truth Mr Raab flew into Brussels to stop a plan by EU negotiators slipping into a “technical agreement” with the assent of the British negotiating team, and hence the final deal. He and his fellow cabinet colleagues felt it conceded too much ground to the EU, would be politically unsellable in the Commons and imperilled the union. Put another way, Mr Raab hit the stop button because different bits of the British government still cannot agree over what to do next.
and

Cabinet ministers believe Mr Robbins and his negotiating team were indicating last week Britain could sign up to a complex fudge in its place. The EU would promise that it would sign up to an all-UK customs zone after next March, whilst writing into law a backstop based on a Northern Ireland-only plan now. Dubbed the “backstop to the backstop”, it caused horror among unionist MPs and the DUP, even as Mr Robbins appeared to be contemplating it last week in Brussels.
There's quite a bit more to the article - not least of which is TM's disfunctional leadership, but it is good to see Oily Robbins getting a wake-up call during his Brussels love-in.
 
Come now. You're a bit player in a theatre of the absurd governed by a ship of fools; you could at least try to enjoy the show.

I was in Vienna in August and got to see this painting for the first time:

why were you looking at pictures?

surely you should have been scourging yourself through the streets shouting 'sorry, wow is me for brexit'.
 

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Rejoice, rejoice at the news of a Royal conception?

A surprise GE?
Oh look, a seagull has shat on your head, a surprise GE? You really do clutch at straws sometimes.
 

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From the BBC, the view on Brexit from Berlin, where it seems ministers are trying to calm stormy waters. Hmmmm.

Berlin's view of the 'Brexit breakdown'

An interesting bit from the article asked why the EU should allow UK better conditions than EU members have.

but why, he asked, would the EU want to offer the UK an advantage over its own member states?
My question is why does the EU offer disadvantageous conditions to their own members? The EU admits that being able to do trade deals is good for countries but is deliberately stopping countries from improving their lot, just for an ideal.

I am glad to be out of the EU - sooner the better.
 
More bad news for amusing blubber and lackbag, ageism to be made a hate crime.
 
I see some of the usual suspects are making the old mistake of assuming that NI and Tax contributions are kept in a pot for them to splurge upon reaching retirement age! :D
 
Not mine but a good twist on cake-ism! :D

LEAVER: I want an omelette.

REMAINER: Right. It’s just we haven’t got any eggs.

LEAVER: Yes, we have. There they are. [HE POINTS AT A CAKE]

REMAINER: They’re in the cake.
LEAVER: Yes, get them out of the cake, please.
REMAINER: But we voted in 1974 to put them into a cake.
LEAVER: Yes, but that cake has got icing on it. Nobody said there was going to be icing on it.
REMAINER: Icing is good.
LEAVER: And there are raisins in it. I don’t like raisins. Nobody mentioned raisins. I demand another vote.
DAVID CAMERON ENTERS.
DAVID CAMERON: OK.
DAVID CAMERON SCARPERS.
LEAVER: Right, where’s my omelette?
REMAINER: I told you, the eggs are in the cake.
LEAVER: Well, get them out.
EU: It’s our cake.
JEREMY CORBYN: Yes, get them out now.
REMAINER: I have absolutely no idea how to get them out. Don’t you know how to get them out?
LEAVER: Yes! You just get them out and then you make an omelette.
REMAINER: But how?! Didn’t you give this any thought?
LEAVER: Saboteur! You’re talking eggs down. We could make omelettes before the eggs went into the cake, so there’s no reason why we can’t make them now.
THERESA MAY: It’s OK, I can do it.
REMAINER: How?
THERESA MAY: There was a vote to remove the eggs from the cake, and so the eggs will be removed from the cake.
REMAINER: Yeah, but…
LEAVER: Hang on, if we take the eggs out of the cake, does that mean we don’t have any cake? I didn’t say I didn’t want the cake, just the bits I don’t like.
EU: It’s our cake.
REMAINER: But you can’t take the eggs out of the cake and then still have a cake.
LEAVER: You can. I saw the latest Bake Off and you can definitely make cakes without eggs in them. It’s just that they’re horrible.
REMAINER: Fine. Take the eggs out. See what happens.
LEAVER: It’s not my responsibility to take the eggs out. Get on with it.
REMAINER: Why should I have to come up with some long-winded incredibly difficult chemical process to extract eggs that have bonded at the molecular level to the cake, while somehow still having the cake?
LEAVER: You lost, get over it.
THERESA MAY: By the way, I’ve started the clock on this.
REMAINER: So I assume you have a plan?
THERESA MAY: Actually, back in a bit. Just having another election.
REMAINER: Jeremy, are you going to sort this out?
JEREMY CORBYN: Yes. No. Maybe.
EU: It’s our cake.
LEAVER: Where’s my omelette? I voted for an omelette.
REMAINER: This is ridiculous. This is never going to work. We should have another vote, or at least stop what we’re doing until we know how to get the eggs out of the cake while keeping the bits of the cake that we all like.
LEAVER/MAY/CORBYN: WE HAD A VOTE. STOP SABOTAGING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EGGSIT MEANS EGGSIT.
REMAINER: Fine, I’m moving to France. The cakes are nicer there.
LEAVER: You can’t. We’ve taken your freedom of movement.
 

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More pressure being heaped on May.

Cabinet told to force Theresa May to drop Chequers plan or she will face no confidence vote 'within days'
Cabinet ministers should force Theresa May to drop her Chequers Brexit plan or Tory Eurosceptic are threatening to force a no confidence vote in her leadership within days, The Telegraph can disclose. The Cabinet meets this morning, with the deadlocked talks about Britain's exit from the European Union in March next year top of the agenda. The meeting comes just 24 hours before Mrs May flies to Brussels this week for a key summit of EU leaders.

Eurosceptic Conservative MPs back a looser Canada-plus free trade deal with the EU over the closer vision agreed by Mrs May’s Cabinet at her Chequers country home in the summer.
I doubt they'll carry through the threat, but May has no guarantee of that. In addition Canada Plus has a decent chance of making it through the Commons; Chequers does not.

It would May is in a distinct minority of people who can't see the obvious way forward.

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