Brexit Phase Two - Trade

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No thought that the Spectator might be a teensy bit pro-Boris?
You say that like it is a bad thing! ;)

IMHO that may not be too bad a thing what with so many taking a stance in which anything BoJo does is automatically wrong. It is also good to have a media source, albeit a somewhat minor one, which seems to back brexit. With the mess PMTM is making it is hard to see how BoJo could be worse - bearing in mind that most media sources that are anti BoJo are so because they are also anti brexit.

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No thought that the Spectator might be a teensy bit pro-Boris?
Yes, which makes what my friend said to me yesterday all the more interesting. He really does not like Boris Johnson and thinks that he will be a disaster but he fully acknowledges that Theresa May (who he describes as 'lovely') is electorally toxic. Katy Balls is making the latter point too.
 

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Yes, which makes what my friend said to me yesterday all the more interesting. He really does not like Boris Johnson and thinks that he will be a disaster but he fully acknowledges that Theresa May (who he describes as 'lovely') is electorally toxic. Katy Balls is making the latter point too.
Might be BoJos only shot at becoming PM anytime soon.

Brexit will be nothing but damaging to the pockets of the vast majority of the UK population.

Therefore the party that's presided over this mess will inevitably lose the next GE.

It's only a question about whether BoJo, or some other chancer gets to do a stint in No10 before Corbyn gets in.
 
Might be BoJos only shot at becoming PM anytime soon.

Brexit will be nothing but damaging to the pockets of the vast majority of the UK population.

Therefore the party that's presided over this mess will inevitably lose the next GE.

It's only a question about whether BoJo, or some other chancer gets to do a stint in No10 before Corbyn gets in.
Who’s been damaged by it?

Record employment. Economic growth higher than the rest of the EU. Record levels of investment.
 
You do realise that there are many, many countries in the world that get visa free travel to the Schengen area for a 3 month visit, don't you? (see above. Or you could if the site would accept more than 20 images ).
And that the visa they are talking about will not include the UK (or Ireland come to that) as we aren't in the Schengen area.
And that the promise to allow these visas was because Turkey agreed to take many of the refugees from Europe provided they met all the requirements laid down (which they haven't).
And Turkey doesn't allow ships or planes to enter Turkey from Cyprus (a EU country) and that they will have to cut back on their anti-terror laws (which they won't because of the Kurdish problem).
And that the visa is simply for visiting and for nothing else?

What were you saying about Project Fear? Seems like you are trying to push your own Project Fear for some reason except that you are clutching at any straw to blend in with your lopsided views.

Now, anything to say about trade?

You do realise that many, many people use that visa to get past the border checks then simply vanish into the black economy?

Yes, you know, I know and they know the rules state that they can only visit for 3 months, but we all also know that there's limited resources to enforce those rules, unless they're unlucky enough to get caught for some other transgression.

Most Western democracies are policed by consent, whereby someone who commits an offence, is arrested and released on bail, will appear as directed for further due process.

It would be interesting to know if the UK has adequate detention facilities to hold all of the illegals found hiding on transport into the country, pending their case being reviewed, or are they released on bail?

Obviously, they'd play by the rules of bail, and not just say "cheers easy" as they go on their merry way.
 

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Who’s been damaged by it?

Record employment. Economic growth higher than the rest of the EU. Record levels of investment.
Record employment (allegedly) lowest tax take, low productivity, high in work welfare benefits, lowest growth and rising inflation
The rest are lies and delusion, the investments were probably organised some time ago, pre brexit and now cannot be undone. And we're still in the eu. And we're going to be there for a some considerable time. We're certainly not bailing out any time soon.ie: next March.
Sorry about that.
 
So at the same level of the U.K.?

I wonder what U.K. revised growth figures will be?
You've already posted about half a dozen times that that was the revised UK growth figures, up from 0.3 to 0.4% or is your goldfish type memory failing you?
You also stated earlier the UK growth was revised to become double that of the EU even though the original EU growth was 0.3%.
Or have you forgotten that as well?
Tell you what, in future, why not wait until all the full figures are in before jumping in with forecasts, predicted, economic indications etc. It would save an awful lot of time.
 

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because we want to leave the EU. We have no need to Stay shackled to any of its restrictive mechanisms.
Restrictive mechanisms.

Like the European Firearms pass.
A call to the FO in Monaghan.
'What's going to happen next year'
'No idea, but they're going to make you pay for it in the future.'
Other restrictive mechanisms would be health care, travel,
 
You've already posted about half a dozen times that that was the revised UK growth figures, up from 0.3 to 0.4% or is your goldfish type memory failing you?
You also stated earlier the UK growth was revised to become double that of the EU even though the original EU growth was 0.3%.
Or have you forgotten that as well?
Tell you what, in future, why not wait until all the full figures are in before jumping in with forecasts, predicted, economic indications etc. It would save an awful lot of time.
could you mail that to Head office, Project FEAR, DO1 1OM
 
Sorry to burst your bubble a little as you keep on about it but the eurozone economic growth has now been revised to 0.4%.

EU Revised Growth
Duh.
Those figures include the UK too. When you lump all the MS into one with some of the basket case MS's, of course there will be growth...that's why the Eastie beasties joined, their economies can only go up.
 

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Yes, which makes what my friend said to me yesterday all the more interesting. He really does not like Boris Johnson and thinks that he will be a disaster but he fully acknowledges that Theresa May (who he describes as 'lovely') is electorally toxic. Katy Balls is making the latter point too.
That May is (a) lacking in the qualities to be PM and (b) electorally toxic had been clear for many months.

There are other Tory candidates other than BoJo. Sajid Javid (for example) has been lining himself up for the top slot and might not do too bad a job.

BoJo might be a good PM anyway - he made a fairly good job of being Mayor of London and - the occasional gaffe aside - has been a fairly good minister. BoJo's problem is that he hides his intelligence by playing the fool a little. @FORMER_FYRDMAN made the point some time back that as soon as he became the Mayor of London he should have cultivated a more serious demeanour. A bit more gravitas, and he'd have been well positioned to go for the top slot - instead he's continued to play the part of 'Bumbling Boris'.

Wordsmith
 
Duh.
Those figures include the UK too. When you lump all the MS into one with some of the basket case MS's, of course there will be growth...that's why the Eastie beasties joined, their economies can only go up.

I like the pond analogy.

You have a garden pond full of lilies, its lovely and the lilies are expensive.
If you thrown a bucket of turds into the pond, they float to the top alongside the lilies, but they are still turds.
 

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