Brexit Phase Two - Trade

Auld-Yin

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What bearing on trade is there?

Who picks EU MP candidates?
If you want a link to trade - it is their spokesman who is and has blocked all discussion on trade to date thus pushing hard brexit to the fore!

That do you?
 
Well we're doing a 100% better than the EU council.

And in our parliament we're light-years ahead.
We are ahead, we've had larger percentages of black and asian ethnic minorities for a longer time. simples no? Have you advocated better representation for ethnic minorities to the EU? Written a letter or anything?

It's another area where our leaving will lessen the EU.
 
Commissioners aren’t civil servsnts though are they?

They form policy and create laws.

You do understand that the EU has a different political system to the U.K. don’t you?
The do as they're told to by the Council, we've been through this a gazillion times. So, you were saying about a different political system? You appear to have resisted all attempts to educate you about it.

WTO? Did you vote for them?
 
The do as they're told to by the Council, we've been through this a gazillion times. So, you were saying about a different political system? You appear to have resisted all attempts to educate you about it.

WTO? Did you vote for them?
WTO deals with trade. It doesn’t spend money on immigration, defence etc etc etc.

You do understand the differences don’t you?

Maybe you could come back with a humorous twitter.
 
Which highlights one of the main reasons for leaving the EU - Commissioners running the show yet are not part of parliament. Not even drawn from MEPs.

Still we have had that discussion and as I have not seen a sensible reason from a leaver as to why that is good I don't see anything to change my view on this ridiculous setup. Sooner we are out of this incestuous organisation the better!
There are plenty of examples around the world where members of the executive are not elected. The US for one, and that is considered, by most, a functioning democracy. Some consider this complete separation of legislature and executive a better system.

Further, it's not as though the commission selects its own members, they are appointed by the elected governments of member states.
 

Wordsmith

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Commissioners aren’t civil servsnts though are they?

They form policy and create laws.

You do understand that the EU has a different political system to the U.K. don’t you?
And very different political objectives. As I've frequently pointed out in the past, the only way to make the euro a stable currency union is for the budgets for member states to be centrally set in Brussels and for Brussels to have the power to punish member states that deviate from the agreed budgets. There would also need to be a substantial transfer of wealth from richer to poorer states.

As also pointed out, the moves towards this putative 'United States of Europe' are largely being done by stealth and meeting increased resistance with anti-EU parties flourishing in many member states. As such, the move towards a USE has been effectively stalled by the growing strength of these anti-EU parties.

We now await the next recession to expose the flaws in the euro, cause defaults in Greece and Italy and present the EU as a whole with the greatest crisis in its history - and one that might destroy it.

Wordsmith
 

skid2

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Yet one you don't seem to want to address!
It doesn’t get any more pathetic than this. Now we’re discrediting Brussels because of a lack of dark faces in a photograph.

Sometimes you have to realise the dream is over, quit scraping the bottom of the barrel. And admit the whole thing’s a mistake.
 
There are plenty of examples around the world where members of the executive are not elected. The US for one, and that is considered, by most, a functioning democracy. Some consider this complete separation of legislature and executive a better system.

Further, it's not as though the commission selects its own members, they are appointed by the elected governments of member states.

Really?

Congress and the Senate are full of unelected placemen?
 

Auld-Yin

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There are plenty of examples around the world where members of the executive are not elected. The US for one, and that is considered, by most, a functioning democracy. Some consider this complete separation of legislature and executive a better system.

Further, it's not as though the commission selects its own members, they are appointed by the elected governments of member states.
But at least in the USA the top dog is elected and he selects his cabinet, unlike the EU where he is appointed and then appoints his cabinet. Look how Martin Selmayr got his post - how democratic was that?
 

skid2

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And very different political objectives. As I've frequently pointed out in the past, the only way to make the euro a stable currency union is for the budgets for member states to be centrally set in Brussels and for Brussels to have the power to punish member states that deviate from the agreed budgets. There would also need to be a substantial transfer of wealth from richer to poorer states.

As also pointed out, the moves towards this putative 'United States of Europe' are largely being done by stealth and meeting increased resistance with anti-EU parties flourishing in many member states. As such, the move towards a USE has been effectively stalled by the growing strength of these anti-EU parties.

We now await the next recession to expose the flaws in the euro, cause defaults in Greece and Italy and present the EU as a whole with the greatest crisis in its history - and one that might destroy it.

Wordsmith
Yet our treasury is shovelling money into the Euro ‘in preparation for the future’.
The Eu always channeled money from more affluent parts of the evil,empire to those who needed and before anyone starts chimfing off about Italy and Greece.
Areas in need included Cornwall, West Wales, Scottish highlands, east wales and Tees Valley.

Anti Eu parties flourishing in member states, noisy short lived and not fit for government. Cf UKIP, Le Pen, 5 star.
Noisy and when it comes to the crunch irrelevant and ignored.
 
But at least in the USA the top dog is elected and he selects his cabinet, unlike the EU where he is appointed and then appoints his cabinet. Look how Martin Selmayr got his post - how democratic was that?

Fundamental difference is that if the President appoints incompetents to his inner circle, Congress and the Senate have the power to say no and bring him to heel

Meanwhile, no such powers exist in EUtopia
 
Strangely enough, Hannon and other brexiters went out of their way to reassure everyone, that brexit wouldn’t affect the Single Market in any way.
A bone head lazy arsed lie, disproven as soon as your fake news sites spat it out. Hannon didn’t say that at all. I’d say you knew that but given the quality of your input, I reason that you’re just as thick as a whale omelette and a gullible fool.
 
WTO deals with trade. It doesn’t spend money on immigration, defence etc etc etc.

You do understand the differences don’t you?

Maybe you could come back with a humorous twitter.
So you do get the the Commission does as it's told to bey the Council I presume? So why the conflation?

But did you vote for the WTO?

Did you vote for the head of NATO?

You do understand that they, as is the EU, are controlled by their members?

There you go:


In return, perhaps you could come up with something, anything, amusing?
 
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And very different political objectives. As I've frequently pointed out in the past, the only way to make the euro a stable currency union is for the budgets for member states to be centrally set in Brussels and for Brussels to have the power to punish member states that deviate from the agreed budgets. There would also need to be a substantial transfer of wealth from richer to poorer states.

As also pointed out, the moves towards this putative 'United States of Europe' are largely being done by stealth and meeting increased resistance with anti-EU parties flourishing in many member states. As such, the move towards a USE has been effectively stalled by the growing strength of these anti-EU parties.

We now await the next recession to expose the flaws in the euro, cause defaults in Greece and Italy and present the EU as a whole with the greatest crisis in its history - and one that might destroy it.

Wordsmith
What is it with you people and your obsession with punishment and destruction?

Why do you assume that people opposed to Brexit aren't aware of the issues that the euro has?

Lastly, why have you ignored the UKs efforts toward EU expansion in order to bollix anyone who thought ever closer union was a political objective? It appears that you're grudgingly admitting that it worked.

Lastly, why are you so weak that you cannot countenance disagreement?
 
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Which one was that ?
I must have slept through it.
He's gifted, what people have previously said or posted is revealed to him in his sleep by the divine will of god, he then posts whatever he wants with the assurance that he isn't wrong, even if there is no trace of said posts.

God, in his omnipotent greatness, only delivers this gift to <adopts swivel eyed loon font> tRUe beLIEveRs
 

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