Brexit Phase Two - Trade

At last we agree..... Non Eu immigration is and always has been much higher than EU immigration (also more of the EU immigrants are tax payers) I can't see HMG agreeing to an Trade deal with India on those terms which means no trade deal with India

As for the planes not flying. Not a problem the 48% who hold the money & power in the UK and employ the 51% have spoken. The UK is staying inthe ECJ and EASA (for at least a decade) that is non-negotiable. The planes will continue to fly.

Durring the 10 years *IF* the UK gets its act to gether and invests VERY heavily in setting up an infrasructure and people for a stand lone UK civil air regulator then we can part company from the ECJ and EASA. The problem is that non of the players want that at all.

What’s this “we”?

You don’t live here.
 
I wonder how Brexit was portrayed as 'anti young people'? I mean they're part of the low-waged (I'd assume), so here they are getting more money. And hopefully house price/rental costs will deflate with lower inbound migration so they don't have to live with mum and dad till they're 34 years old.

Many of the opportunities afforded to young people by the EU were useful - freedom to study abroad in any EU country and pay the same rates as the students of that country; grants to set up businesses; freedom to work in any EU nation state; Erasmus schemes for university and/or vocational students, people in work - that's probably why it's been billed as a young persons things.

And the housing crisis is also caused by people living longer. I think many people are going to be shocked to find our woes won't disappear when we kick all the immigrants out.
 
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Deary me. You've taken too many blows to the head with your Micky Mouse Arts thing. You should get checked out.
 
You and your girly friend keep telling me you're following me. I really don't get it, you weren't in the pub, were you hiding in the bushes, giggling and wetting yourselves? There's something seriously wrong with the pair of you.

I recommend they buy some Tena for their constant ooops moments.
 
I wonder how Brexit was portrayed as 'anti young people'? I mean they're part of the low-waged (I'd assume), so here they are getting more money. And hopefully house price/rental costs will deflate with lower inbound migration so they don't have to live with mum and dad till they're 34 years old.
They're still playing the line 'Old gammons voted for Brexit' crap. It's from the same people that want the voting age reduced to 16 in the vain hope that they will vote for them when the time comes.
You're right though, they'll be thanking us once we're out of the death grip of the EU.
 
Many of the opportunities afforded to young people were offered by the EU - freedom to study abroad in any EU country and pay the same rates as the students of that country; grants to set up businesses; freedom to work in any EU nation state; Erasmus schemes for university and/or vocational students, people in work - that's probably why it's been billed as a young persons things.

And the housing crisis is also caused by people living longer. I think many people are going to be shocked to find our woes won't disappear when we kick all the immigrants out.
My daughter's not long out of university; I can't think of one of her friends who studied in an EU country and we live in a fairly affluent area (the Wye Valley). She currently working in a non-EU country without a problem.

200,000 students have worked or studied in the EU since 1987. That's got to be a tiny percentage when compared with the whole.

Same goes for the young who've collected business grants; a tiny fraction of the whole.

My point is that the beneficiaries of what you've said the EU offers will only be used by a tiny proportion of the young.

But ALL these students will want a job that actually has an inflationary pay rise, and they'll need somewhere they can afford to live, other than with mummy and daddy.
 
My daughter's not long out of university; I can't think of one of her friends who studied in an EU country and we live in a fairly affluent area (the Wye Valley). She currently working in a non-EU country without a problem.

200,000 students have worked or studied in the EU since 1987. That's got to be a tiny percentage when compared with the whole.

Same goes for the young who've collected business grants; a tiny fraction of the whole.

My point is that the beneficiaries of what you've said the EU offers will only be used by a tiny proportion of the young.

But ALL these students will want a job that actually has an inflationary pay rise, and they'll need somewhere they can afford to live, other than with mummy and daddy.

In 2016–17, there were 2.32 million students studying at UK higher education institutions.

Erasmus is an elitist indoctrination scheme designed to produce Nick Clegg clones.
 

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Wages would have to raise to really high levels to push inflation really high.

Wages that keep up with regular good old inflation (and they haven't been) will have a minimal effect.

You can sleep soundly tonight; your coffee and pret are safe.
One more time. High prices lead to high inflation, if high wages are solely responsible there's another name for that.

Coffees always been safe.But pret? is that some canny name for the hinny?
 

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Alas for you, I will still be a EU citizen on March 30 2019 . Enjoy yiur blue passport you little Englander ;-)
I'll be fine. EU companies and MS have already been making moves to allow skilled Brits to follow the work out of the UK.
I wonder how Brexit was portrayed as 'anti young people'? I mean they're part of the low-waged (I'd assume), so here they are getting more money. And hopefully house price/rental costs will deflate with lower inbound migration so they don't have to live with mum and dad till they're 34 years old.
You haven't seen the stats showing that the reduction in EU immigration is being replaced by non EU immigration?

The problems of lack of housing and infrastructure aren't going to be solved since we are simply swapping one kind of migrants for another
 


Particular beneficiaries have been young people from the UK. More than 200,000 British students have taken part in the Erasmus education scheme since it was established in 1987.”

An EU indoctrination scheme right out of the National Socialist playbook,
Bloody hell. I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find something even older to link to than that.
How about a "Mafeking Relieved" link.
Oh, and the interesting thing about that is the 60% youth unemployment back 5 years ago. Now down to 33% which is still too high but obviously something is improving.
 
My daughter's not long out of university; I can't think of one of her friends who studied in an EU country and we live in a fairly affluent area (the Wye Valley). She currently working in a non-EU country without a problem.

200,000 students have worked or studied in the EU since 1987. That's got to be a tiny percentage when compared with the whole.

Same goes for the young who've collected business grants; a tiny fraction of the whole.

My point is that the beneficiaries of what you've said the EU offers will only be used by a tiny proportion of the young.

But ALL these students will want a job that actually has an inflationary pay rise, and they'll need somewhere they can afford to live, other than with mummy and daddy.

Erasmus works both ways - our home students also benefit from overseas students studying here.

Although strange your daughter didn't know anyone who took a modern languages degree with an Erasmus placement for example. When I was an undergraduate, I knew a lot of people who took advantage of the scheme (Also where I'm currently working in Belgium, an Erasmus placement is actually part of the MSc here.)

Also if you come from an afluent area, I suspect many of the younger people have a) no problem setting up a business without a grant, and b) no problem moving out of mum and days.

What is she doing in the country she lives in now? Is she actually started in a career, or working on one of those seasonal workers schemes?
 
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