Brexit Phase Two - Trade

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Of course it's obvious. I'm showing that the EU institutions are sub par. @exbleep, for example, wrongly assumed Juncker was installed as pres via a democratic process.

And I'm showing there's institutionalised ethnic repression happening in the corridors of Brussels.

The EU is not all it's cracked up to be when they can't get the basics, like democracy and fairness right; they don't even reflect their constituents (a large portion of whom are from ethnic minorities).

You have to remember, for other than the UK, electoral democracy is a novel and new concept to the vast majority of EUropean States.

Until quite recently, it was mostly Fascist dictatorships or the rule of kings.

The EU and its utter contempt for the democratic process is just normal jogging for Europe
 

skid2

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well surely that's the point, so on what basis do you say that the leave vote was misled. The distinction is that what is nothing less than a campaign slogan daubed on the side of a bus. it's meant to be eye catching-does it have to be true? Broadly if you equated the sum sent to Brussels with then NHS then something can be massaged.
Now when Brown said "British the jobs for British workers"-what did that actually mean?

'It's meant to be eye catching does it have to be true',
That's the brexit campaign in one sentence.
Well done you.
 

Auld-Yin

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Interesting fact buried there: Barnier was Juncker’s rival for the top job. Juncker’s tenure is up next year. Maybe Barnier’s hardman stance on Brexit negotiations is an attempt to make him look like a ‘strong and stable’ successor when the time comes?
That was pointed out two years ago when he was made chief negotiator. Which mightily pissed off Guy Verhofstadt who also sees himself as Juncker's replacement so ensured that he would be lead spokesman for the EU Parliament. Both have had their noses put out of joint by Martin Selmayr slipping in unannounced to be deputy to Junker and positioning himself for the top spot.

There will be a lot of angst and blood over this but the electorate won't be asked to bother themselves over who will be the top politician in the EU!
 
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skid2

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Why didnt the brexiters pick up on on this on jobs creation and inward investment .

£26,000 a head. Just for the training course. That's what the Dept. For International Trade is paying Deloittes to train up 100 staff for trade dispute resolution. The EU do that for us at the moment... imagine their salaries on top of that... every year!
 
Why didnt the brexiters pick up on on this on jobs creation and inward investment .

£26,000 a head. Just for the training course. That's what the Dept. For International Trade is paying Deloittes to train up 100 staff for trade dispute resolution. The EU do that for us at the moment... imagine their salaries on top of that... every year!
I'd be far more impressed if Parliament was more generous with Legal aid in civil matters- that would sort things out in a hurry.
 
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That was pointed out two years ago when he was made chief negotiator. Which mightily pissed off Guy Verhofstadt who also sees himself as Juncker's replacement so ensured that he would be lead spokesman for the EU Parliament. Both have had their noses put out of joint by Martin Selmayr slipping in unannounced to be deputy to Junker and positioning himself for the top spot.

There will be a lot of angst and blood over this but the electorate won't be asked to bother themselves over who will be the top politician in the EU!

It’s all a bit like a corrupt Roman imperial court with chancers manouvering with the Senate to be the next Caesar.

Treaty of Rome begats a new Roman Empire.
 
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skid2

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Ah good riposte ignore the question.
You said it. You admitted it in print.
There was no question
It was your response. The response being.
'It's meant to be eye catching, is it meant to be true?'

Quite frankly, we British expect that sort of thing. Not having realised that the leave camp didn't really care about honesty or accuracy.
It's a lesson learned.
 
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