Brexit Phase Two - Trade

Them? They're not mythical, they are out there on the balcony! :D
Not this week, its block jobs in the Boathouse. But I didn't tell you that :cool:
 
12m of taxpayers money from scottish enterprise to tempt them, which is 5k / head. We got 12/k per head so Barclays have not done very well negotiating that one.

It is jobs in the U.K. - operations, so I suspect Barclays are pushing their shared service operations up there, which will be welcome after Shell pulled out and moved it’s global shared service from Jockland to Croatia because of labour costs
 
No divorce deal without trade deal. Dominic Rab (that’s going to really impress our future trade partners. The term will be known as brexiting on a deal as opposed to ‘welching’)
Why? - remember all parties are fully aware there's no deal until everything is agreed - and even an arch-arch-arch Remainer like yourself surely wouldn't want HMG to pay £40Bn quid of UK taxpayers money in return for sweet fanny adam in return? Seriously, are you saying that because we are British we have to pay up no matter what? - that's the sort of thing Teresa May does but no other normal human being would agree to that. This is a perfectly acceptable negotiating tactic to use against an enemy force that is a. desperate for our money and b. doing the same thing to us over Ireland
 
I've long known this. Why is it so difficult for the belters to understand.
Simple.

Most consumers in the EU don't understand they're paying 15% - 20% more than they need to for their food than they need to - and as such they don't protest.

Many small farmers in the EU have uneconomic farms and would be bankrupt but for the CAP. If cuts are mooted they light barricades of burning tyres and spray offices with manure.

As such, although farmers are a far small part of the voter base than consumers. As such, they represent votes that could be lost to the varying political parties. If the anti-EU parties across the EU ever get their act together and start systematically pointing out how much extra consumers are paying for their food because of the CAP, the EU is going to have a major political headache.

One thing the government is sure to do after Brexit is lower the tariffs on foods not produced in the UK - such as bananas. Cheaper food in the shops = more popular government.

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Why? - remember all parties are fully aware there's no deal until everything is agreed - and even an arch-arch-arch Remainer like yourself surely wouldn't want HMG to pay £40Bn quid of UK taxpayers money in return for sweet fanny adam in return? Seriously, are you saying that because we are British we have to pay up no matter what? - that's the sort of thing Teresa May does but no other normal human being would agree to that. This is a perfectly acceptable negotiating tactic to use against an enemy force that is a. desperate for our money and b. doing the same thing to us over Ireland
There is precedent for that c.f. Tony Blair and Dave the Rave Cameron. Blair gaveaway half our rebate for a promise that did not vcome about. DC told us that we would not pay anything to bail out the Euro, and quietly paid the money to the EU.

No, there are plenty of examples of our government giving away money or position in return fro zilch. Which really, we should admire the EU for, biggest political shysters ever but at least they have stuck to their "Principles".
 
The continuing saga of Project Fear:

There is just about only one word the Guardian has missed out from this article and it starts with a N has a Z in it and is four letters!
Don’t wish for a new party to end the Brexit mess. It will be a far-right one | Martha Gill

The Remainers are getting so desperate that they themselves are inventing the very things that they so despise. I am not sure if this is hilariously funny or sadly serious. :-?
I’m all for this lady to lead any new party.

Gisela Stuart - Wikipedia

Blair and Co must be releasing the nuclear options of spin to brief behind the scenes.

Interestingly, the U.K. has never been pan pro European, but we’re the ones who always seem to have to come to Europe’s rescue when their previous attempts at pan Europeanism results in a significant increase in cemetery space required.
 
Simple.

Most consumers in the EU don't understand they're paying 15% - 20% more than they need to for their food than they need to - and as such they don't protest.

Many small farmers in the EU have uneconomic farms and would be bankrupt but for the CAP. If cuts are mooted they light barricades of burning tyres and spray offices with manure.

As such, although farmers are a far small part of the voter base than consumers. As such, they represent votes that could be lost to the varying political parties. If the anti-EU parties across the EU ever get their act together and start systematically pointing out how much extra consumers are paying for their food because of the CAP, the EU is going to have a major political headache.

One thing the government is sure to do after Brexit is lower the tariffs on foods not produced in the UK - such as bananas. Cheaper food in the shops = more popular government.

Wordsmith
Country file was quite illuminating yesterday. It seems that in France they’re cultivating the concept of a return to putting trees on farms and the French are very happy. Why, because the French Government is footing the investment cost by 80%. What they didn’t say was that trees are probably going to be bio fuel, which attracts a further subsidy, the abuse ofwhich is incidentally the excuse that SF brought down the NI assembly for.
 
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Country file was quite illuminating yesterday. It seems that in France they’re cultivating the concept of a return to putting trees on farms and the French are very happy. Why, because the French Government is footing the investment cost by 80%. What they didn’t say was that trees are probably going to be bio fuel, which attracts a further subsidy, the abuse ofwhich is incidentally the excuse that SF brought down the NI assembly for.
But I thought this months mantra was bio fuels were bad?

U.K. plc offer a similar though.

Probably more to do with people scratching their head wondering why we need to ship wood from the other side of the globe.
 
Aye, I'm terrified so I am.......
I'm terrified that we will get a deal. That will be a slow death.
Cancel Brexit or a Hard Brexit.

With a hard Brexit life expectancy is 24days to 24 hours. then you can restart the UK.

With a Deal the UK will have decayed over months to nothing by the time the Brexit Loons realise the mess and admit reality.
 
I'm terrified that we will get a deal. That will be a slow death.
Cancel Brexit or a Hard Brexit.

With a hard Brexit life expectancy is 24days to 24 hours. then you can restart the UK.

With a Deal the UK will have decayed over months to nothing by the time the Brexit Loons realise the mess and admit reality.
The U.K. has been decaying since we joined the EU.

I’d like to think that even the people who want us to ignore the referendum result and stay as we are will realise the dangers of that?
 
That is a very simplistic view.

What if membership of the club results in levels of taxation (corporation tax, VAT etc) and regulation that burden UK business and render them less competitive on the world stage.?

What if the club is planning further political and financial integration that would require you sign over power of attorney over some of your affairs (in plain language requiring Westminster to transfer power to Brussels).

What is the financial system used by the club (the euro) has serious structural flaws and will result in a full or partial failure in the next recession?

What if the club is a protectionist organisation that is going to result in a trade war with the US with Trump imposing retaliatory tariffs for the protectionist tariffs that the EU uses to keep competitors out of the single market.

What is the club has a policy - the Common Agricultural Policy - that keeps food prices above world levels, meaning we all pay more than we need to for our food?

In those circumstances, maybe the UK is better off outside of the club.

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We were so burdened that we led the G7 growth table......you're just off on a flight of fantasy. Trump's US is protectionist, China is protectionist, the way to get round this is to stop Agent Orange trashing the WTO.

When you can show us how you can replace our major trading partner easily you might have a point, not whilst you're still breathing is when it's going to happen.
 
We were so burdened that we led the G7 growth table......you're just off on a flight of fantasy. Trump's US is protectionist, China is protectionist, the way to get round this is to stop Agent Orange trashing the WTO.

When you can show us how you can replace our major trading partner easily you might have a point, not whilst you're still breathing is when it's going to happen.
Trumps trade policy is ‘don’t try and subsidise your industry. If you do we’ll make sure your subsidies can’t be used as a competitive advantage.’

Our major trading partner is the US?
 
"When you can show us how you can replace our major trading partner easily you might have a point, not whilst you're still breathing is when it's going to happen. "

Have these clowns not been reading any of the Brexit threads for the last 3 years?
What sort of a numpty thinks that we will have to 'replace' our major trading partner (I think she means the EU). This would mean that we won't be trading with the EU after Brexit, frankly a most stupid proposition but the staple thinking of the clowns that voted remain.....and they wonder why they are on ignore.
 
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