Brexit Phase Two - Trade

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And the only feasible way to ask them individually is by a 2nd referendum. My point of view is only through my observation of the reaction of individuals interviewed in the media, along with places like Grimsby which voted to leave but now (apparently) still wants their EU subsidy. I think many sleep-walked into the referendum, though ignorance, indolence or flag-waving ideology (be that pro- or anti-EU). I think (and feel free to disagree, as I'm sure many will) that the consequences (and vision) of a post-Brexit UK are much better known by the electorate now than they were in 2016, so a 2nd referendum (which also told us how we'll leave the EU, rather than simply that we would) is justified, logical and could also be a unifying rather than divisive exercise for a currently deeply divided nation.
Democracy (remain-style) in action.

Clearly the lessons of the Irish referendums has been learned.
 
all existing EU subsidies can be continued. Just directly paid from Westminster rather than routed via Brussels.
No they won't. It seems that HMG has promised subsidies that are greater than the amount we are not going to pay the EU. So some people will be loosing subsidies.

The other problem is that due to the tax take falling when companies leave the UK, how many and how much the tax take will drop is arguable but it IS happening (not "going to"). the problem not just companies but higher rate tax payers who are not paying tax.

This will compound the problem. So a lot of subsidies will be cut at the same time taxes rise (just to keep the NHS going)
 
Democracy (remain-style) in action.

Clearly the lessons of the Irish referendums has been learned.
Read and believe whatever you want. If you'd comprehended what I wrote, which apparently you didn't, I believe that a 2nd referendum is justified and the result of that referendum final, as that referendum would also answer the question of what the UK's future relationship with the EU should be.
 

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Read and believe whatever you want. If you'd comprehended what I wrote, which apparently you didn't, I believe that a 2nd referendum is justified and the result of that referendum final, as that referendum would also answer the question of what the UK's future relationship with the EU should be.
Grumpy was spot on! The EU way of doing things is to have referendums until such time as they get the answer they want - then shut down the system!

Glad we are leaving the EU!
 
Read and believe whatever you want. If you'd comprehended what I wrote, which apparently you didn't, I believe that a 2nd referendum is justified and the result of that referendum final, as that referendum would also answer the question of what the UK's future relationship with the EU should be.
Oh I can read. And read between the lines.

No more referendums on Europe. We had one. Remain lost. Get with the programme. We leave the EU come rain, hail or sunshine in March 2019.
 
So just to clarify he IS moving business to Dublin, just not an office, because he wants a fund out of the UK jurisdiction
No. He’s setting a fund up in Dublin, and has been for some time.

It’s like saying that another business man who supported Brexit is shifting JCB production to Brazil because of Brexit.
 

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all existing EU subsidies can be continued. Just directly paid from Westminster rather than routed via Brussels.
Oh come on. You don’t actually think that Cornwall, the farmers. Northern Ireland, Wales and bits of Scotland are going to receive the same sort of Euro funding, only from Westminster.

Fishing and farming communities got a lot of dosh, they’ll be thrilled to know it’s going to continue.
Despite the fact that Gove has said farmers are going to have to earn it.
You’re either wrong or you don’t know a lot about the amount of European funding some places got.
 
Do explain how they are hypocrites?
you might want to look up the meaning of the word first.
They’re normally claiming that people who voted for brexit are stupid. What they actually mean is ‘if we remain in the EU,we can carry on suppressing wage growth if the working classes that’s benefits the middle classes.
 
Oh come on. You don’t actually think that Cornwall, the farmers. Northern Ireland, Wales and bits of Scotland are going to receive the same sort of Euro funding, only from Westminster.

Fishing and farming communities got a lot of dosh, they’ll be thrilled to know it’s going to continue.
Despite the fact that Gove has said farmers are going to have to earn it.
You’re either wrong or you don’t know a lot about the amount of European funding some places got.
They already revive less back from the EU than we give the EU.

It’s a bit like saying ‘give me £10 and I’ll give you £5 back and remember, if you stop giving me that £10 you’ll be £5 out of pocket.
 

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They’re normally claiming that people who voted for brexit are stupid. What they actually mean is ‘if we remain in the EU,we can carry on suppressing wage growth if the working classes that’s benefits the middle classes.
You keep saying that, constant repetition doesn’t make it true.
 
You haven't got a clue?

You're challenging your own alteration of my post.

You not having a clue is the most honest post you've made to date.
I never altered the "than" though did I?

You sound a tad excited, you're not getting annoyed with someone twisting your post are you?

Calm down, it's only the internet. If you'd like to show where I don't have a clue you can crack on........

<Settles down for long wait>
 
Read and believe whatever you want. If you'd comprehended what I wrote, which apparently you didn't, I believe that a 2nd referendum is justified and the result of that referendum final, as that referendum would also answer the question of what the UK's future relationship with the EU should be.
I agree a second referendum is justified. However as we have already voted to leave the next question should simply be hard or soft Brexit, again a two choice referendum.
 
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