Brexit Phase Two - Trade

It could also be, that if Ireland is able to offer more routes and more competition to the rest of Europe they see a chance to nab some of the UK's long haul traffic.

Did you actually read what you posted?

Ireland’s cunning plan is to offer an even longer route to Yourup And undercut the closer country with a tunnel and a couple of dozen short sea crossings?
 

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According to the Electoral Commission the total electorate on the day was 46,500,001 and 17,410,742 of them who bothered to get off their arses voted to leave.

(17,410,742/46,500,001) x 100 = 37.442% to three decimal places.

Or 37% to no decimal places.

So, erm, only 37% of the electorate voted to leave...
Even less (or fewer!) voted to stay. What should we do children?
 

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I claimed nothing like that. I simply pointed out that it's an issue that, ideally, needs sorted if it's to be a hard Brexit. In any case, by leaving the EU it's the UK that's 'disallowing' itself from the extant US/EU agreement.
Yeh but, no but, yeh but.....
 

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Given Ireland has no QRA of its own, and its proximity to the UK this agreement is of as much, if not more worth to the UK. It offers us little, if any, useful leverage.

Varadkar's full statement is not quite as emotional as the edited extracts suggest.
FFS you can't accept anything can you? If a Brexiteer told you rain was wet you would argue purely because it is from a Brexiteer. And you have the gall to complain about Brexiteers! Pot, kettle, black etc.
 
According to the Electoral Commission the total electorate on the day was 46,500,001 and 17,410,742 of them who bothered to get off their arses voted to leave.
Yes, 46,501,241 were eligible.

Of which 16,141,241 voted remain, and 17,410,742 voted to go... or 33,551,983 voted one way or another.

Including the spoilt ballots (26,033) 33,578,016 people voted.

The remaining 12,923,225 didn't vote. They're opinion is irrelevant.
 
Have I got something wrong. Don’t we currently have a free trade deal with Europe and by virtue of this deal, a deal with japan.

But let’s leave and see if we can renegotiate a better free trade deal, than an.........Er free trade deal
it's not a free trade deal, fool we're in a customs Union and we pay, it's free within the CU because we've paid. Note the word paid- this means it's not free. Your meal in a restaurant is not free, you have to pay. Either way the fact remains that you are paying well over the odds on the retail side. Tell you what you Buy your suits, Luggage etc in HK and pay the duty and then compare the difference in the high street near you. Bet you'd be surprised. If you travel and buy it may fit into your personal allowance.
 

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Yet another nail (the final one?) in PMTM's grand plan!

Barnier questions May's Brexit plan

Give Barnier his due, he had been consistent in his stonewalling of anything put forward by the UK.

Mr Barnier did not reject the White Paper out of hand, saying "several elements" of it were "very useful".

But there were parts that Brussels did not understand which would need further clarification.
Parts that would need further clarification. Every bit of paper handed to the EU has required "further clarification".

I won't say any prodoective deal with the EU is now dead as to be dead they needed life to start with!

Does anyone actually think the EU are going for anything other than a hard brexit?
 
Bollox and FUD again, with a twist of shouda,woulda,coulda.
They have the right to vote and are on the register and therefore constitute part of the electorate (or "voters" in colloquial usage). That they chose not to physically mark a ballot in a given poll is neither here nor there in relation to calculating a proportion of the entire electorate.
 
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