Brexit Phase Two - Trade

The problem is the Brexit vote where it voted leave most was in 7 out of the 10 poorest, furtherist and generally disenfranchised areas in the uk and Europe.

For some of these areas despite the glowing employment figures the final straw was immigration.

And where the targeted ads on immigration and the NHS were hammered home. That, the Turks are coming has been described as one of the most deliberately hateful and dishonest posters ever seen in British politics. ( if I can’t find it, then the source is me)

What you had was a protest vote. Had the question been ‘do you hate Westminster’ there would have been a landslide.
Europe wasn’t the problem it was London and the SE which was sucking up the money and the transport and travel infrastructure.
Does your city have an airport?
How many runways?

In the latter days of the vote there were seriously dodgy claims which wouldn’t have stood up in an ordinary election, but because there was a seriously limited timeframe. And a lot of new information flying around there was no time to check any of it.

You’re wrong about most people looking forward to leaving the Eu.
You’re also wrong about people wanting to get on with it. (That ones being pushed particularly hard because there’s nothing nice to look forward to leaving Europe. Higher costs, job losses, business resizing and disappearing)

Your other bit about the remainers being a distinct but vocal minority is also not being borne out.
There have been rashes of social media questionnaires and polls. People have been traipsing up and down the land having public meetings and talks. Mainly in areas which were particularly heavy duty leavers.
Again and again the answer comes back it was either a fucked off with the Westminster people or immigrants.

The leave campaign have removed a lot of anti immigration/UKIP ads and posters. That’s the next one where they’re going to be in the poo. At the time the whole campaign was too fast and furious to keep an eye on everything. Now that things have calmed down and they’ve been done for massively overspending.

The next one looks to be on some of the more ‘colourful’ statements and facts.

The social media questionnaires show what you fail to acknowledge. People are changing their views.
They’ve realised that Europe wasn’t the cause of their woes. They’ve realised they were sold a pup, lied to by the ads, the posters, the leave camp and almost everyone who talked them about it.
They’ve realised that no matter how bad things have been and are now. Brexit isn’t going to make it better. In fact as the fishing and farming people are finding out, it’s going to make things worse.

Now here’s the bad news.

If there’s another referendum, the young people will. I stress will. Come out and vote. What they will probably do, and I don’t mind telling you this as you won’t read it.

They’ll drop the voting age. And I’m sure you aren’t hanging out with the young uns or down with the kids........but they’re seriously keen on Europe. And they will vote, being all grown up and stuff and sticking it to the man.

They’re already being targeted by remainer youth and peer groups. It’s a bit like UKIP with girls and nice people all geared up to take it to the streets.

You see that green bit outside Westminster, that grass stuff where they do the outside
Stuff. Look who’s there, look who’s annoying some of the interviewers and interviewees. And they’re there all day every day. And they’ve no problem getting volunteers.

That last pro euro March there’s another one in October, feel free to get those numbers wrong to support your preconceptions.

And at the other end of the demographic scale. Those particular voters will not come out to vote again for a myriad of reasons.

I don’t expect a response.
The only reason the silence is deafening is because you aren’t listening. Or reading or getting out much.

Get those sneakers on, you may well be back on the streets again. I’d be interested in how the response differs this time round, but you’ll probably lie about it.
Everyone else. Sorry it’s so long, but he did ask. It’s been an interesting day.
Uh oh, somebody's refreshed.
 
well they obviously don't want Dublin airport to be an ongoing concern...
I think everyone, including the Taoiseach if he's being quoted correctly, is getting confused between overflight and operating services that land in other countries.

The treaty allowing rights of commercial air traffic navigation over a country is an ICAO issue, and will be unaffected by Brexit. The EU 'open skies' agreement is what allows any EU airline to operate any route within the EU. This does have the potential to cause significant disruption, and explains why many of easyJet's fleet have recently changed from UK to Austrian registrations.

I believe that's broadly the case, happy to be proved wrong though.

Edit: It's International Air Services Transit Agreement I'm thinking of.
 
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Agreed.

I did hear a wonderful snip of an interview with Jason Reeve Mogg on LBC being called a hypocrite for moving his investment company to Dublin.

He pointed out that his offices are still in London and will continue to be in London. He then proceeded to explain he had opened a fund up in Dublin, following in from another one he’d opened up in 93 and the fund was planned way before the referendum was even announced.
Of course they planned to have a Dublin based fund well over two years ago and th eprospectus for it was alway sgoing to say:

Referring to Brexit, the fund’s prospectus said: “During, and possibly after, this period there is likely to be considerable uncertainty as to the position of the UK and the arrangements which will apply to its relationships with the EU and other countries following its withdrawal.

“This uncertainty may affect other countries in the EU, or elsewhere, if they are considered to be impacted by these events.

“As [the firm is] based in the UK and a fund’s investments may be located in the UK or the EU, a fund may as a result be affected by the events described above.”

Jacob Rees-Mogg defends Ireland move by firm he co-founded amid warnings over Brexit

I read about Mr Hitler saying that following annexation of the Sudetenland he had no further territorial ambitions.

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Does the pigeon post twitters?
Only if you're smart enough to find out what they're called and stop shouting at them. Plenty of clouds out there man.
 
Even the recent anti-Brexit demonstration in London didn't attract a particularly big crowd. Were the people of the UK massively opposed to Brexit, I would expect regular 500,000+ demonstrations in all the major cities.

The silence is deafening.
I'd suggest waiting to see what happens in the event of a No Deal and the effects of that. Experience teaches us that you'll be blaming the EU and remain supporters though.
 
well they obviously don't want Dublin airport to be an ongoing concern...
If I'd known Lanzarote was that close to Ireland I'd have popped down the last time I was in Cork
 
it's amazing how Anthony is suddenly a big fan of referendums...
He’s hoping for a standard EU tactic of keep doing referendums until the result desired is achieved.

I will bet all of my worldly possessions that should a second referendum be organised and it’s 52% remain, 48% leave then they will argue that democracy has spoken and the issue is now closed forever.

I posted this yesterday which shows historical support levels for the EU.

Polling history: 40 years of British views on 'in or out' of Europe

Standby for continued messages from Project Fear coordinated by Tony.
 
You're not wrong about your final point. I have a formal commendation from the US DoJ for my part in a joint investigation.
Anything in the public domain?
 
i take it your geography isn't too hot.
Much stronger than your comprehension and SOH it appears.

You don't have German genes do you? Do you find Benny Hill incredibly funny?
 
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