Brexit Phase Two - Trade

Frictionless trade is what he wants, as does business in the UK. However, when we lay down some oil to smooth the way, along come Juncker, Barnier and any acolytes they have to hand like Tusk or Varadkar with their squeegees to remove the oil and lay down sand! UK and EU businesses may want frictionless trade but the EU elite don't - that is very clear!
Leave the club, lose the benefits. It's that simple
 
So many companies threatened to leave, so few companies have left.

After all that’s said and done, there’s a lot more said than done.

HT twitter
 
Airbus to lift plane production in China yup. Being going around for six months or more. And Boeing moving too. So an emerging market may have enticed firms in to their parlour with offers of deals in return for investment?
They weren't moving out of the UK though, they'd already said that, then this government displayed how good at planning and negotiating it is.
 
So many companies threatened to leave, so few companies have left.

After all that’s said and done, there’s a lot more said than done.

HT twitter
Have we left yet?
 
How on earth can people call Brexiteers stupid xenophobes when we beacons of knowledge and tolerance like your good self A-Y?
Google translate just blew up.
 
They weren't moving out of the UK though, they'd already said that, then this government displayed how good at planning and negotiating it is.
if a multinational says its not going to move it's usually a sign that the packing boxes are already ordered...Airbus Planes Built In China May Mean Trouble For Europe
The A320 aircraft is the world's best-selling commercial jetliner. More than 6,300 have been sold and about 400 A320 are flying in China. European production of the aircraft was reduced in October from 36 planes a month to 34, according to the International Association of Machinists. It is expect to decline further as production increases in China to cut costs and meet that country's expected demand of 2,800 passenger jets in the next 20 years.



"European unions say the move [to China] only exacerbates fears that more work could be outsourced at a time when European working families need the jobs the most," the machinists union said. "They also fear the loss of European technology to Chinese counterparts."

Airbus officials see things a little differently. They view the Chinese factory and technology-sharing as a tactical move that could provide an advantage over rival Boeing, which makes components in China but doesn't have a full production facility there.

"No one will benefit more from this than Europeans," Airbus CEO Tom Enders said recently. Building aircraft outside of current borders "is the future and, with innovation and internationalization, Airbus can win a share of this future."





But if Airbus doesn't watch out it may have a competitor beyond Boeing to contend with.

As the Post-Intelligencer notes, China's aviation industry includes more than 200 enterprises that produce and manufacture aerospace products and employs 491,000 workers, according to the US-China Economic Security and Review Commission's 2008 report to Congress. China has also has expressed interest in a domestically designed and built aircraft and is therefore hoping to learn from Airbus' expertise.

The newly built A320 took its first test flight last month with the first Chinese test engineer trained by Airbus, and Airbus engineers in Beijing already are working on carbon-composite technology for the next-generation A350 XWB. This doesn't mean the Chinese are poised to take over the aviation industry. But the outlook certainly does not look good for Airbus' European workforce, which seems to be getting mixed signals from Enders.

"Right now the UK is the supplier of wings for the Airbus family but that doesn't mean the Chinese can't build a good wing," he told the Telegraph. "If we underestimate our Chinese friends, there will be a problem. Europe is not the only play in town. The UK has got to keep an edge in research and technology."
from June 2009 btw.
 

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All the usual suspects in the media seem to be dragging up all the anti-brexit stories they can muster. One last push or are newspaper sales of anti-brexit organs nosediving now they realise they've finally lost ;).:cheers:
I didn't believe the Airbus story I was waiting to have you verify it to go along with the robot jobs and the fact that an aircraft builder was actually selling aircraft. ( I wonder who will be doing the invoicing, the Northern Irish or the Canadians. I suppose from wherever the tariffs are lowest)
 

But that's not what cloth bomber said.

Actually its funny, and a bit like when Dred said leaving the EU would benefit UK pharma industry, yet we've now lost the EU medicines agency.

Leavers don't like experts, unless they have some tenuous link to the industry they claim to be an expert on, like sell insurance to drugs companies, or tightened bolts on planes some forty years ago.
 

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Airbus to lift plane production in China yup. Being going around for six months or more. And Boeing moving too. So an emerging market may have enticed firms in to their parlour with offers of deals in return for investment?
Its also spectacularly stupid. China has a long record of stealing Western technology secrets from plants built in China. Expect to see a Chinese aircraft built using purloined Airbus technology inside a decade.

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Italy's parliament has revolving doors, it's had over 60 changes of government since ww2.

Europe doesn't seem to get too annoyed when they start throwing the plates of pasta around.
When you reported a similar stunt less than a month ago it was dealt with and Europe didn't worry overmuch or collapse in a heap.

And now you seem to take some sort of joy at a country or two, our neighbours and NATO allies having some serious social and economic problems .

This is what I dislike about Brexit, it has normalised nasty, unBritish and thuggish behaviour. It has cracked this country.

Dragging seriously ill MPs into the HoC to vote in person.

Threats of violence and abuse at people with a different opinion or the wrong sort of judicial independence or parliamentary sovereignty.
Does that look like the action of a government that's winning?
Or confident and in control?
UnBritish :) perhaps if were weren't so British (a Victorian creation), the country wouldn't be going down the toilet.. We need to get back to the buccaneering spirit of our English ancestors, who created an empire in the first place.
 
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