Brexit Phase Two - Trade

You're normally more supportive of the EU.
I'm not, showing why something is the way it is doesn't mean I support it all. It came down to the EU winning a best dressed man in Albania competition in comparison with the vision offered by the snake oil salesmen.

These people do not have the best interests of our country at heart, which is why they're preventing any meaningful negotiation.
 
We haven't offered the EU solution have we? Red lines?
neither have the EU.

Thus adding credence to the hypothesis that the EU are making a mountain out of a molehill in order to retain cash and control.

But you believe what you like, I a m just enjoying the occasional glimpse into the bleating heart of the remain camp.
 
So, it's pretty clear that there are no benefits to brexit for the UK.

When the lies are stripped away, all that's left are xenophobia, exceptionalism and irrational hatred of the EU
I’m not xenophobic.

I voted leave because of what the EU has turned into.

Interestingly, this guy is the founding father of the EU.

Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi - Wikipedia

He’s the guy that set the wheels in motion and even pushed for ‘Ode to Joy’ to be it’s national anthem.

AT NO TIME, did he advocate a United States of Europe.
 
We voted for this, leaving was not imposed by Europe. The European negotiators shouldn’t be held responsible for wanting what’s right for their own country. Its just a pity our lot aren’t doing the same for us.
The very thing the leavers seem to be banging on about most, ie: the USE. Thanks to us having no say or influence in Europe or its future the brexiters have almost guaranteed it.
Well done.
European negotiators don’t represent a country.
 
That's insanity, constant repetition is not going to help you one bit. You may not like it but globalisation is a fact and the world is getting smaller.
Which is why we would be in much better shape in rather than out.
I am genuinely curious how you can conclude that in the light of increased globalism we are better in a protectionist block than out of it.

I am not trying to score points ( I will leave that for others to do) but my instinct (for what it's worth which is not a lot) says that the more globalised things become the more anachronistic a setup like the EU is.
 
neither have the EU.

Thus adding credence to the hypothesis that the EU are making a mountain out of a molehill in order to retain cash and control.

But you believe what you like, I a m just enjoying the occasional glimpse into the bleating heart of the remain camp.
We're saying we can't use it. We've rejected it before even trying. Red lines.

I'm enjoying the "We want to leave, the nasty big boys are stopping us and will not tell us how to do it" histrionics and have been since the referendum thread.
 
no, I don't dig globalisation. It's not the way I feel we should be going. We can 'globalise' more effectively than the current model driven by manmade economic models.
Smash the system down in the hope that something will magically replace it.

He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom
 
We're saying we can't use it. We've rejected it before even trying. Red lines.

I'm enjoying the "We want to leave, the nasty big boys are stopping us and will not tell us how to do it" histrionics and have been since the referendum thread.
have we really? I thought that it was the UKs technical proposal that was rejected ( after 5 days of deliberation meaning either it was quite comprehensive or the EU couldn't be arrsed with it)
 

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I am genuinely curious how you can conclude that in the light of increased globalism we are better in a protectionist block than out of it.

I am not trying to score points ( I will leave that for others to do) but my instinct (for what it's worth which is not a lot) says that the more globalised things become the more anachronistic a setup like the EU is.
You've never heard of the term Trade wars then
 
Have you never heard of competition then?

It's good for the consumer and sorts the wheat from the chaff.
I keep on telling everyone that the two biggest markets outside of the EU are intensely protectionist. <No Answers> is the response. Everything goes to the wall because we can't compete and we all live happily ever after?
 
I keep on telling everyone that the two biggest markets outside of the EU are intensely protectionist. is the response. Everything goes to the wall because we can't compete and we all live happily ever after?
But isn't the EU the biggest protectionist block going?

Wouldn't a true free market be best for everyone?

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