Brexit Phase Two - Trade

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What! You actually think that the EU could reform itself in a meaningful way taking into account the wellbeing of its citizens?

Boy are you good at wishful thinking!
 
Surely that was the idea. TM takes the deal out, shows it to the Euro folk. They nod in agreement and it comes back to the house for the final ok.
Parliamentary sovereignty. Cheers and applause.

If they don’t like it it goes back for a rerun and once again back to Parliament for their approval.
Somebody’s missing something
You are missing a truly simple point; why on earth would the EU give us a better deal on the back of a lost Parliamentary vote? What is in it for then? Acclaim from Vince Cable, Anna Soubry and Keir Starner? We will be made a take it or leave it offer, which Parliament are free to accept or reject.
 
You are missing a truly simple point; why on earth would the EU give us a better deal on the back of a lost Parliamentary vote? What is in it for then? Acclaim from Vince Cable, Anna Soubry and Keir Starner? We will be made a take it or leave it offer, which Parliament are free to accept or reject.

You're not understanding the dynamics here. HMG can't agree amongst itself what they want.

If HMG fails, then Parliament will decide.
 
Because I have no idea what the general level of comprehension was and neither have you. Based on personal experience, I'm willing to bet that it wasn't high.
Ah! Then go with the lowest common denominator and assumed the people voting for Brexit were nigh on brain dead retards. (Have I overdone that last bit?)

Having taking into account stupidity, would we really want to leave a trading pact of 500 m ish people to negotiate with Ameria - 270m? Or China? - they like rules - er

Or India?
Or...?
 
You are and it demeans you, which is truly sad. The only way that Parliament can go back and ask for fresh negotiations is with (a) the formation of a new government post GE and (b) with the unanimous consent if the 27 EU MS. The former is more likely than the latter but between now and 29/03/19, neither are very likely.
Point of order. Qualify your all 27 remaining MSs?
 
In which parallel universe are you living? Time is running out for a deal. As the Americans say, 'Do the Math!'
Point for No Deal - UK, do the math... your journey will end in the concrete road block because Europe doesn't give a ... something

(Enjoy your journey to the bottom.... We loved you, bye...)
 
Nick Clegg now a fringe loony? How things change:D
But, from one perspective a Remainer is a loon, whilst from another, a Leaver is a loon. Fringes exist on both sides of the argument.

It is just a pity that some are granted more weight than others by both sides of the media. I wish that there was an unbiased arena where all this could be debated in order to allow the populace to be informed as to the short and long term trade and economic ramifications.

Unfortunately, that seems impossible.
 
Parliament are not the Executive and the Legislative cannot negotiate on behalf of the Executive. Parliamentary sovereignty is the power to accept or reject legislation, not to go off on a both a vain and vague quest to obtain a better deal.
I do know that. HMG will do what Parliament lets them do.
 
Point for No Deal - UK, do the math... your journey will end in the concrete road block because Europe doesn't give a ... something

(Enjoy your journey to the bottom.... We loved you, bye...)
The hard timing is 29/03/2019. If nothing us agreed by then, then yes we crash out. But, in reality that deal will have to finalised by 10/18 in order to gain legislative approval both in the UK and across the EU. Time is running out.
 

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You are missing a truly simple point; why on earth would the EU give us a better deal on the back of a lost Parliamentary vote? What is in it for then? Acclaim from Vince Cable, Anna Soubry and Keir Starner? We will be made a take it or leave it offer, which Parliament are free to accept or reject.

So you’re rejecting the notion of parliamentary sovereignty, this very thing, a plank of the Brexit stage is a waste of time?

And that’s another thing about the brexit campaign, it’s like it’s bi polar and determined to fight on two fronts. And we all know how that usually goes.


It’s, The Eu they are either a) so tough and unbending there will be no leeway in the negotiation and whatever we pull out in the final stage will be a done deal.
Or b) it’s so shattered and terrified by us leaving. It really needs to sell us Mercs and BMs it’ll give us a truly good deal, wave us goodbye and be ready to give us another one when we go back and say parliament says no.
 
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The hard timing is 29/03/2019. If nothing us agreed by then, then yes we crash out. But, in reality that deal will have to finalised by 10/18 in order to fain legislative approval both in the UK and across the EU. Time is running out.

I don't see anything hard about 29 Mar 19. It's already been kicked well to the right and still has to pass the various Parliamentary votes in the next six months, some important ones of which have already been postponed since Feb for fear of failure..
 

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