Brexit Phase Two - Trade

You are and it demeans you, which is truly sad. The only way that Parliament can go back and ask for fresh negotiations is with (a) the formation of a new government post GE and (b) with the unanimous consent if the 27 EU MS. The former is more likely than the latter but between now and 29/03/19, neither are very likely.
Point of order. Qualify your all 27 remaining MSs?
 
In which parallel universe are you living? Time is running out for a deal. As the Americans say, 'Do the Math!'
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Nick Clegg now a fringe loony? How things change:D
But, from one perspective a Remainer is a loon, whilst from another, a Leaver is a loon. Fringes exist on both sides of the argument.

It is just a pity that some are granted more weight than others by both sides of the media. I wish that there was an unbiased arena where all this could be debated in order to allow the populace to be informed as to the short and long term trade and economic ramifications.

Unfortunately, that seems impossible.
 
Parliament are not the Executive and the Legislative cannot negotiate on behalf of the Executive. Parliamentary sovereignty is the power to accept or reject legislation, not to go off on a both a vain and vague quest to obtain a better deal.
I do know that. HMG will do what Parliament lets them do.
 
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The hard timing is 29/03/2019. If nothing us agreed by then, then yes we crash out. But, in reality that deal will have to finalised by 10/18 in order to gain legislative approval both in the UK and across the EU. Time is running out.
 

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You are missing a truly simple point; why on earth would the EU give us a better deal on the back of a lost Parliamentary vote? What is in it for then? Acclaim from Vince Cable, Anna Soubry and Keir Starner? We will be made a take it or leave it offer, which Parliament are free to accept or reject.

So you’re rejecting the notion of parliamentary sovereignty, this very thing, a plank of the Brexit stage is a waste of time?

And that’s another thing about the brexit campaign, it’s like it’s bi polar and determined to fight on two fronts. And we all know how that usually goes.


It’s, The Eu they are either a) so tough and unbending there will be no leeway in the negotiation and whatever we pull out in the final stage will be a done deal.
Or b) it’s so shattered and terrified by us leaving. It really needs to sell us Mercs and BMs it’ll give us a truly good deal, wave us goodbye and be ready to give us another one when we go back and say parliament says no.
 
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The hard timing is 29/03/2019. If nothing us agreed by then, then yes we crash out. But, in reality that deal will have to finalised by 10/18 in order to fain legislative approval both in the UK and across the EU. Time is running out.

I don't see anything hard about 29 Mar 19. It's already been kicked well to the right and still has to pass the various Parliamentary votes in the next six months, some important ones of which have already been postponed since Feb for fear of failure..
 
I don't see anything hard about 29 Mar 19. It's already been kicked well to the right and still has to pass the various Parliamentary votes in the next six months, some important ones of which have already been postponed since Feb for fear of failure..
We leave the EU on 29/03/2019. There is no unanimity of opinion on whether or not that clock can be stopped. Government legal advice is that it cannot. The transition period can only be enacted if we accept the deal offered.
 
So you’re rejecting the notion of parliamentary sovereignty, this very thing, a plank of the Brexit stage is a waste of time?

And that’s another thing about the brexit campaign, it’s like it’s bi polar and determined to fight on two fronts. And we all know how that usually goes.


It’s either a) so tough and unbending there will be no leeway in the negotiation and whatever we pull out in the final stage will be a done deal.
Or b) it’s so shattered and terrified by us leaving. It really needs to sell us Mercs and BMs it’ll give us a truly good deal, wave us goodbye and be ready to give us another one when we go back and say parliament says no.
What in earth are you wibbling on about now?
 

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