Brexit Phase Two - Trade

It's screamingly obvious. Something that isn't a hard Brexit.

It's not my plan, by the way, merely my interpretation of the way the wind is currently blowing.
Maybe reread my previous posts. There will be a take it or leave it deal before every Parliament. What it is, is between HMG and the EU. Any parliament small or large including ours can reject it. They can't alter it.
 
Maybe reread my previous posts. There will be a take it or leave it deal before every Parliament. What it is, is between HMG and the EU. Any parliament small or large including ours can reject it. They can't alter it.

Why can't they alter it? Why can't they choose to bin the idea completely?

Parliament does make the law and I'm assuming you voted for Parliamentary sovereignty.
 

Auld-Yin

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It is WORTH pointing out that there is no mandate for a hard Brexit. Tell the people that they are going to be seriously f*cked over and I would suggest, most might want to take a year or two to reconsider. Royally screwed, the UK will be. Not something advertised by the likes of Bojo and his mob.
Absolute rubbish! The ONLY mandate is for a hard brexit as that what leave means. All the negotiations are to soften that, but the fact remains that the referendum was a mandate for hard brexit.

Remainiacs repeating the incorrect statement endlessly does not make it fact.
 
How would this happen? Parliament get to debate the deal negotiated by the Government. Parliament don't get an opportunity to turn around to the EU and say we would like a better deal please! What are struggling to understand?

Parliament votes on something and instructs HMG to go back to the EU.
 
Absolute rubbish! The ONLY mandate is for a hard brexit as that what leave means. All the negotiations are to soften that, but the fact remains that the referendum was a mandate for hard brexit.

Remainiacs repeating the incorrect statement endlessly does not make it fact.
Take your pick from the many varied versions of Brexit on offer.
 

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How would this happen? Parliament get to debate the deal negotiated by the Government. Parliament don't get an opportunity to turn around to the EU and say we would like a better deal please! What are struggling to understand?
Surely that was the idea. TM takes the deal out, shows it to the Euro folk. They nod in agreement and it comes back to the house for the final ok.
Parliamentary sovereignty. Cheers and applause.

If they don’t like it it goes back for a rerun and once again back to Parliament for their approval.
Somebody’s missing something
 

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Why can't they alter it? Why can't they choose to bin the idea completely?

Parliament does make the law and I'm assuming you voted for Parliamentary sovereignty.
As you well know parliament makes laws only if given a mandate to do so by the electorate, or at least those who bother to turn out. The referendum gave that mandate regarding the EU, backed up by an overwhelming vote in parliament to submit the art 50 letter. The government, and it must be said, the opposition, are acting on that mandate to get us out of the EU.

The smoke and mirrors campaign by the sore losers does not give remain a legitimate claim to remain to go back on the referendum and just repeating the claim gives absolutely no legitimacy to it.
 
As you well know parliament makes laws only if given a mandate to do so by the electorate, or at least those who bother to turn out. The referendum gave that mandate regarding the EU, backed up by an overwhelming vote in parliament to submit the art 50 letter. The government, and it must be said, the opposition, are acting on that mandate to get us out of the EU.

The smoke and mirrors campaign by the sore losers does not give remain a legitimate claim to remain to go back on the referendum and just repeating the claim gives absolutely no legitimacy to it.

But the game is only just beginning, AY.
 
I'm not the one clutching.
You are and it demeans you, which is truly sad. The only way that Parliament can go back and ask for fresh negotiations is with (a) the formation of a new government post GE and (b) with the unanimous consent if the 27 EU MS. The former is more likely than the latter but between now and 29/03/19, neither are very likely.
 
You are and it demeans you, which is truly sad. The only way that Parliament can go back and ask for fresh negotiations is with (a) the formation of a new government post GE and (b) with the unanimous consent if the 27 EU MS. The former is more likely than the latter but between now and 29/03/19, neither are very likely.

All things are currently possible.
 

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