Brexit Phase Two - Trade

Absolute rubbish! The ONLY mandate is for a hard brexit as that what leave means. All the negotiations are to soften that, but the fact remains that the referendum was a mandate for hard brexit.

Remainiacs repeating the incorrect statement endlessly does not make it fact.
Take your pick from the many varied versions of Brexit on offer.
 

skid2

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How would this happen? Parliament get to debate the deal negotiated by the Government. Parliament don't get an opportunity to turn around to the EU and say we would like a better deal please! What are struggling to understand?
Surely that was the idea. TM takes the deal out, shows it to the Euro folk. They nod in agreement and it comes back to the house for the final ok.
Parliamentary sovereignty. Cheers and applause.

If they don’t like it it goes back for a rerun and once again back to Parliament for their approval.
Somebody’s missing something
 

Auld-Yin

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Why can't they alter it? Why can't they choose to bin the idea completely?

Parliament does make the law and I'm assuming you voted for Parliamentary sovereignty.
As you well know parliament makes laws only if given a mandate to do so by the electorate, or at least those who bother to turn out. The referendum gave that mandate regarding the EU, backed up by an overwhelming vote in parliament to submit the art 50 letter. The government, and it must be said, the opposition, are acting on that mandate to get us out of the EU.

The smoke and mirrors campaign by the sore losers does not give remain a legitimate claim to remain to go back on the referendum and just repeating the claim gives absolutely no legitimacy to it.
 
As you well know parliament makes laws only if given a mandate to do so by the electorate, or at least those who bother to turn out. The referendum gave that mandate regarding the EU, backed up by an overwhelming vote in parliament to submit the art 50 letter. The government, and it must be said, the opposition, are acting on that mandate to get us out of the EU.

The smoke and mirrors campaign by the sore losers does not give remain a legitimate claim to remain to go back on the referendum and just repeating the claim gives absolutely no legitimacy to it.

But the game is only just beginning, AY.
 
You are and it demeans you, which is truly sad. The only way that Parliament can go back and ask for fresh negotiations is with (a) the formation of a new government post GE and (b) with the unanimous consent if the 27 EU MS. The former is more likely than the latter but between now and 29/03/19, neither are very likely.

All things are currently possible.
 

Auld-Yin

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All things are currently possible.
What! You actually think that the EU could reform itself in a meaningful way taking into account the wellbeing of its citizens?

Boy are you good at wishful thinking!
 
Surely that was the idea. TM takes the deal out, shows it to the Euro folk. They nod in agreement and it comes back to the house for the final ok.
Parliamentary sovereignty. Cheers and applause.

If they don’t like it it goes back for a rerun and once again back to Parliament for their approval.
Somebody’s missing something
You are missing a truly simple point; why on earth would the EU give us a better deal on the back of a lost Parliamentary vote? What is in it for then? Acclaim from Vince Cable, Anna Soubry and Keir Starner? We will be made a take it or leave it offer, which Parliament are free to accept or reject.
 
You are missing a truly simple point; why on earth would the EU give us a better deal on the back of a lost Parliamentary vote? What is in it for then? Acclaim from Vince Cable, Anna Soubry and Keir Starner? We will be made a take it or leave it offer, which Parliament are free to accept or reject.

You're not understanding the dynamics here. HMG can't agree amongst itself what they want.

If HMG fails, then Parliament will decide.
 
Because I have no idea what the general level of comprehension was and neither have you. Based on personal experience, I'm willing to bet that it wasn't high.
Ah! Then go with the lowest common denominator and assumed the people voting for Brexit were nigh on brain dead retards. (Have I overdone that last bit?)

Having taking into account stupidity, would we really want to leave a trading pact of 500 m ish people to negotiate with Ameria - 270m? Or China? - they like rules - er

Or India?
Or...?
 
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