F fatherjack Clanker Oct 27, 2009 #1 Oct 27, 2009 #1 so says aunty beeb http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8328980.stm
K Karl_uk Old-Salt Oct 27, 2009 #2 Oct 27, 2009 #2 http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/p=2960037.html#2960037