Boyfriend being Discharged

#1
Hi, I hope I'm posting in the right area.

I wonder if anyone can help with some info/advice as, per usual Army are not being straight.

My boyfriend has been in for 6 years. While he was in Iraq in 2006 he was diagnosed with Diabetes, he was flown back and treated, he was of course P7 downgraded, he attended a med board and was kept in, on recruiting Now almost three years on they are looking at discharge again, we thought this was over and through his treatment it looked as though he was even getting a posting back to a unit anyway I suppose with all the cutback announcements etc he is an easy target. I have a couple of questions. They are giving him an Admin discharge on Medical grounds? thus he is not entitled to full medical resettlement? Does anyone know exactly what he will be entitled too? we are worried as we know he won't ever earn as much in the real world as he does now and he has alot of debt and even with my wages if he were to earn a standard wage we'd never be able to cover everything. Is there any way he'd get any help or lump sum? He was also told last year that he could claim for his 5 year money, he filled out forms and submitted them only to be told he wasn't entitled as it's five years from when you were 18 and not your join up date, so he was looking to re-apply for it in Feb and he has been told that he's not allowed to as it's only if your committing to another years service after you claim, even though he wants to stay in and has given them six years he's not even entitled to claim for that!!!! At the pace this discharge is going at he could still be in next year!

If anyone has any advice about help, funding or even if you know of anyone independent we could contact we're it's been going on so long we can't get any straight answers from them re dates or anything cheers
Gem
 
#3
Just suck him off, if he can manage that then he can probably still breed so you have nothing to worry about.
 
#4
Sorry misread the title of this thread - was about to recommend you contact a STI/STD helpline to deal with the issue.

Suggest that he touch base with his local resettlement officer for advice. The British Legion also may be able to provide assistance and advice.

Toady
 
#5
If I could suggest:

Army Welfare Service

The Royal British Legion

The British Armed Forces Federation

The Padre

The cleaner

The NAAFI tart

The local pub landlord

Or pretty much anyone other than an anonymous website would be a better option to ask for this type of advice
 
#6
CAARPS said:
If I could suggest:

Army Welfare Service

The Royal British Legion

The British Armed Forces Federation

The Padre

The cleaner

The NAAFI tart

The local pub landlord

Or pretty much anyone other than an anonymous website would be a better option to ask for this type of advice
YOOO someone else has seen through this
 
#7
Just to add my tuppence worth ...I worked with a guy who was diagnosed with diabetes and wasn't forced to leave so I don't understand why your "boyfriend " is being discharged .
 
#8
CAARPS said:
If I could suggest:

Army Welfare Service

The Royal British Legion

The British Armed Forces Federation

The Padre

The cleaner

The NAAFI tart

The local pub landlord

Or pretty much anyone other than an anonymous website would be a better option to ask for this type of advice
Yes very, helpful thanks! I was looking to see if anyone had any personal experience, as I'm sure you'll have noticed I did say that all proper routes of contact are not being forthcoming. I was under the impression that this site was unofficial for the general networking/help/advice/buddying of ex/current servicemen/woman and those that support them! Clearly I was wrong and it actually gives people like you a platform to spew your sarcastic, unhelpful and patronising opinons from!
Enjoy!

To those who offered real advice, thank you!

Gem
 
#9
gunfighter said:
Just to add my tuppence worth ...I worked with a guy who was diagnosed with diabetes and wasn't forced to leave so I don't understand why your "boyfriend " is being discharged .
Gunfighter, this is kind of our point, but we think it is now more of an issue, with the spending cuts/being overmanned in the news at the moment. This is the kind of unofficial feedback I was looking for!

Thanks xxx
 
#10
pinkthing26 said:
gunfighter said:
Just to add my tuppence worth ...I worked with a guy who was diagnosed with diabetes and wasn't forced to leave so I don't understand why your "boyfriend " is being discharged .
Gunfighter, this is kind of our point, but we think it is now more of an issue, with the spending cuts/being overmanned in the news at the moment. This is the kind of unofficial feedback I was looking for!

Thanks xxx
If he's P7 he's not much use so why would he be kept in the army?
 

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LE
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#11
#13
pinkthing26 said:
CAARPS said:
If I could suggest:

Army Welfare

Or pretty much anyone other than an anonymous website would be a better option to ask for this type of advice
Yes very, helpful thanks! I was looking to see if anyone had any personal experience, as I'm sure you'll have noticed I did say that all proper routes of contact are not being forthcoming. I was under the impression that this site was unofficial for the general networking/help/advice/buddying of ex/current servicemen/woman and those that support them! Clearly I was wrong and it actually gives people like you a platform to spew your sarcastic, unhelpful and patronising opinons from!Enjoy!

To those who offered real advice, thank you!

Gem
That's quite impressive. Usually takes people more than a week to grasp that.
 
#14
pinkthing26 said:
CAARPS said:
If I could suggest:

Army Welfare Service

The Royal British Legion

The British Armed Forces Federation

The Padre

The cleaner

The NAAFI tart

The local pub landlord

Or pretty much anyone other than an anonymous website would be a better option to ask for this type of advice
Yes very, helpful thanks! I was looking to see if anyone had any personal experience, as I'm sure you'll have noticed I did say that all proper routes of contact are not being forthcoming. I was under the impression that this site was unofficial for the general networking/help/advice/buddying of ex/current servicemen/woman and those that support them! Clearly I was wrong and it actually gives people like you a platform to spew your sarcastic, unhelpful and patronising opinons from!
Enjoy!

To those who offered real advice, thank you!

Gem
My profuse apologies for my late reply, however, I have been away on army stuff (relatively rare on this website)

If you think that an anonymous website is a conduit for information on real time issues then you deserve everything you get 8O

Good luck :D
 
#15
pinkthing26 said:
Yes very, helpful thanks! I was looking to see if anyone had any personal experience, as I'm sure you'll have noticed I did say that all proper routes of contact are not being forthcoming. I was under the impression that this site was unofficial for the general networking/help/advice/buddying of ex/current servicemen/woman and those that support them! Clearly I was wrong and it actually gives people like you a platform to spew your sarcastic, unhelpful and patronising opinons from!
Enjoy!

To those who offered real advice, thank you!

Gem
She's got a fcuking excellent point there actually. I also thought that ARRSE was supposed to be where people could come for advice outside of the chain where the advice given was from the real world and not the MOD stance.

Or should it be called "Armynet" light?

It's not like her other half ran away with a Chally and gave it to Terry or scampered off under a rock the first time he was shown a picture of a man in a turban

Stop toeing the fcuking party line. ARRSE was set up in the first place so that advice that was legal and real but that DIDN"T toe the Army line could be disseminated.

Get off your fcuking horses, they aren't that high.
 
#16
I knew loads of people with insulin dependant diabetes that soldiered on. I would have thought that he would be med boarded out so medically discharged not administratively. Being in debt, the six year money, the refusal of agencies to help, the whole thing doesn’t ring true. Being a girlfriend the op she may never get the fully story, sorry I can’t be more positive but it all just sound like a made up story to cover for something else.

Can who ever stole Aunty Stella’s login please give it back.
 
#17
Aunty Stella said:
She's got a fcuking excellent point there actually. I also thought that ARRSE was supposed to be where people could come for advice outside of the chain where the advice given was from the real world and not the MOD stance.

Or should it be called "Armynet" light?

It's not like her other half ran away with a Chally and gave it to Terry or scampered off under a rock the first time he was shown a picture of a man in a turban

Stop toeing the fcuking party line. ARRSE was set up in the first place so that advice that was legal and real but that DIDN"T toe the Army line could be disseminated.

Get off your fcuking horses, they aren't that high.
How many times has a story started with:

My boyfriend/husband is getting f*cked over by the army and how many times has the person (posting in good faith) not really been given all the facts by their ‘other halves’.

How many times when the facts have slowly emerged has the ‘other half’ actually been treated fairly (obviously not from their point of view) within the rules and regulations?

Oh and tell me out of the organisations I listed (near the top) what ones should be disregarded.

CAARPS said:
If I could suggest:

Army Welfare Service

The Royal British Legion

The British Armed Forces Federation

The Padre
If the opening posters other half is indeed getting sh*t on then I will openly apologise.

If he is being admin discharged because he has unfortunately developed a medical condition that is not attributable to his service, he has my sympathy, “there but the grace of god…”. But how many non-deployable people are we supposed to keep

As for the financial stuff, I have deliberately not commented or condemned because we have all been young soldiers and some of us were not the financial wiz kids that others on here obviously were at that age.
 
#18
Aunty Stella said:
pinkthing26 said:
Yes very, helpful thanks! I was looking to see if anyone had any personal experience, as I'm sure you'll have noticed I did say that all proper routes of contact are not being forthcoming. I was under the impression that this site was unofficial for the general networking/help/advice/buddying of ex/current servicemen/woman and those that support them! Clearly I was wrong and it actually gives people like you a platform to spew your sarcastic, unhelpful and patronising opinons from!
Enjoy!

To those who offered real advice, thank you!

Gem
She's got a fcuking excellent point there actually. I also thought that ARRSE was supposed to be where people could come for advice outside of the chain where the advice given was from the real world and not the MOD stance.

Or should it be called "Armynet" light?

It's not like her other half ran away with a Chally and gave it to Terry or scampered off under a rock the first time he was shown a picture of a man in a turban

Stop toeing the fcuking party line. ARRSE was set up in the first place so that advice that was legal and real but that DIDN"T toe the Army line could be disseminated.

Get off your fcuking horses, they aren't that high.
Did somebody get out of bed the wrong side :?
 
#19
i am currently going through he same process.

i have done 18 years in the army and i was diagnosed with diabetes 5 years ago. when i found out i went to see the doctor and asked if i would get booted out or a medical discharge because i had diabetes and was told no as long as i kept it under control.

i have kept it under control and 2 years ago i was given veng which means i could extend beyond my 22 year point

i am the unit postie but now the army has decided that i cannot do that job because i have diabetes.

i understand the need to have as many deployable people as possible but the job that i am doing i cant deploy because i do the mail for all the wives left back here when the guys are away. why are the army allowed to promise the earth and then pull the ground from beneath your feet.

the way they are handling this seems bollox to me. 4 weeks ago i was told i might be getting kicked out i have had numerus interviews in bn i have tried sorting out my resettlement and anything else for the outside world but cant because it is still not confirmed if i am getting the boot or not so it is the classic hurry up and wait syndrome that we in the army are so used to.
 
A

armadillo

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#20
The army is making tough decisions to get rid of financial leaks, the easiest to sort out fast is manpower. However they will using the system against you get rid of you as quick as possible. They will do it so that they do not incur costs. Id suggest contacting British Armed Forces Federation and get legal representation as fast as possible. Dont sign anything, get everything in writing, see a independent doctor (one that specialises in diabetes) and also a independent occupational therapist. Do not bring up the debt as that is one way they can admin discharge you. They will at APC lose records, the med centre will lose records and the unit clerk will lose records. Get copies of these by fair means or foul. (I walked straight in to see the file and photocopied the lot) they can stop you physically but not legally.

If there are any meetings with RCMO or MO have a chaperone who takes notes.

They will admin discharge you rather than go through a medical board. This is currently illegal. The army know but will get away with it corporately because of its size. They have a history of this. Remember that.

Also make sure that your boyfriend is squeaky clean. No buckshee kit, that he attends all parades on time, his equipment is admin. That all JPA claims are done correctly. Because believe it or not AGAI action is easy to use against him.

How do I know all this? Because they tried it with me, still in and still fighting. Remember the system is full of penny pinching bastards and because its a big machine will get away with it.

Good luck

Dont forget the power of the press. I would do it now pre election.
 

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