Boris - The Prime Minister

First thoughts on PMBoris, will he make a difference?


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Or in reality PM did a good job again despite Labour's hysterical virtue signalling cringeworthyness
I genuinely don't know who Labour are trying to appeal to; according to Starmer's logic, I should be a Labour supporter - university graduate, public sector worker, married to an immigrant - but all that I can see when I look at him is a smarmy twat with zero charisma.
 

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I genuinely don't know who Labour are trying to appeal to; according to Starmer's logic, I should be a Labour supporter - university graduate, public sector worker, married to an immigrant - but all that I can see when I look at him is a smarmy twat with zero charisma.
They're trying to appeal to everyone and failing with anybody who can see through the flim flam, as per this session's cringefest of who can be saddest over somebody we never met but touched us all so deeply we must reference no matter how tenuous a link to whatever point we'll eventually make.
 
I genuinely don't know who Labour are trying to appeal to; according to Starmer's logic, I should be a Labour supporter - university graduate, public sector worker, married to an immigrant - but all that I can see when I look at him is a smarmy twat with zero charisma.
And I remember when I was a typical tub thumping Labour supporter and why:

grew up in an impoverished household in Burnley
grew up hating the posh & privileged* as I went about in hand me downs & cheap clothes & shoes
school uniforms provided by welfare
free school dinners
joined the army to better myself and get out of Burnley (what used to be called aspirationalist)
worked hard, and long, and did OK despite RHIP, old school ties, snobs & arrse kissers

I'd be called a red tory now :)


*Still do with a passion but tempered by life and experience, realising there are actually some decent toffs amongst the dross
 
Seems to me that statistics are being used to twist and bring trouble on Boris. The report issued yesterday saying Government statistics were skewed to fit the agenda of proving lots of tests had been done appears to have been produced by someone who worked with many Labour Ministers when they were in power.

Plus, it seems to me that if you have no symptoms and die in a motorcycle accident, a post mortem test will show covid on your death certificate although it wasn't responsible for your death. That will make our stats look high compared to other nations, surely?
Friend of a friend, through Cricket, passed away two weeks ago. He had chronic heart disease.
When wife discovered Covid on the death certificate, she queried it. Medic said: if we put anything else, there has to be a post-mortem, easier all round if we blame the virus.
 
Friend of a friend, through Cricket, passed away two weeks ago. He had chronic heart disease.
When wife discovered Covid on the death certificate, she queried it. Medic said: if we put anything else, there has to be a post-mortem, easier all round if we blame the virus.
Liked, not because I like it but because it mirrors the experience with my dad recently.
 
I thought it was easy enough to understand. The problem is the ‘widely lampooned’. Tge id
The way that Labour and Parliamentary SNP (as opposed to the Scottish Government) have decided to play party politics with this crisis has been viewed with distaste by most decent people. I think that Boris is determined not to sink into the gutter with them.
Exactly.
Two weeks ago, Gordon Brown attacked Edinburgh (SNP) and Westminster (Conservative) over care homes.
He was silent about Wales (Labour).
 

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Have not heard a single person say they think he is good at what he does
I only really know of him from his inane blathering as an MP in the commons, and his somehow totally different from Cummings exodus to the North. He might be a decent constituency MP, I have seen nothing to support that though.
 
They’ve been in power since 2015 -they had the significant millstone of the Liberal Democrats to contend with for the 5 years before that. It wasn’t a coalition, it was like rats in a sack.
Conservative Prime Minister since 2010, majority of Conservatives in Cabinet and key jobs 2010-15, almost entirely Conservative policies - just without the swivel-eyed stuff that they were only too happy to bin, with the excuse "the Lib-Dems won't let us, sorry".

Meanwhile, the Lib-Dems got crucified in 2015 because they weren't seen to have made a difference to Conservative policies. The Lib-Dem manifesto promises didn't appear. QED.
 

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Conservative Prime Minister since 2010, majority of Conservatives in Cabinet and key jobs 2010-15, almost entirely Conservative policies - just without the swivel-eyed stuff that they were only too happy to bin, with the excuse "the Lib-Dems won't let us, sorry".

Meanwhile, the Lib-Dems got crucified in 2015 because they weren't seen to have made a difference to Conservative policies. The Lib-Dem manifesto promises didn't appear. QED.
You left out THATCHER! there.
 
Conservative Prime Minister since 2010, majority of Conservatives in Cabinet and key jobs 2010-15, almost entirely Conservative policies - just without the swivel-eyed stuff that they were only too happy to bin, with the excuse "the Lib-Dems won't let us, sorry".

Meanwhile, the Lib-Dems got crucified in 2015 because they weren't seen to have made a difference to Conservative policies. The Lib-Dem manifesto promises didn't appear. QED.
Cameron was more Liberal Democrat than true blue Tory!
 
grew up hating the posh & privileged*
But you see as an Army Brat who grew up in early fifties Germany- partially in MQs before being shipped out to NA and returning to Wilsonite Britiain- to be denied an education promised me by the system- to join the army only to be rejected, I never hated the privileged. An accident of Birth is just that, it's just that some accidents are bound to happen throughout the spectrum. My parents didn't detest the upper classes, they despised what the US would have called the carpet baggers, the leeches in that society. But even leeches have a place in life. It's no good hating what you can't control. I found a niche and being proud of what I did achieve- I can't ask for more. That is essentially why I could never vote Labour. I know my criminal, I know I can trust them to be criminal-which is rather different to trusting snake oil salesmen in the vain hope that they will better my life.
This turned out to be proven in that I've done better under the conservatives than at any time under Socialists.
 

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