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poor old Laura

damned if shw does, damned if she doesn't


sort of the way she's been going after Johnson for ages
Who do you think gives her No 10 scoops on WhatsApp?
 

ACAB

LE
Says the YMCA residing fellow
Nope, says the recently retired ex Plod and Squaddie. What do you do by the way????




And I also spent the best part of 6 years in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan working as a contractor.
 
If you think it normal that contract bids from people with no experience in the sector should start like this I can't help

Alex Bourne, who used to run a pub close to Hancock’s former constituency home in Suffolk, said he initially offered his services to the UK health secretary several months ago by sending him a personal WhatsApp message.

I don't need any semantics argument, his pub landlord got a contract, even if he was ex-pub landlord by that time.

You think this is all above board?
I have read and understood the entire article, not just the negative bits, and I have no problem with what happened, given the circumstances. The clues are in the article.
You do realise the pandemic created a national and international emergency, don’t you, and it was all hands to the pump.
Your attitude to this is the same as your attitude to the likes of Dyson, McLaren et al becoming involved in the urgent need for ventilators.
As with this former Captain (anybody on here know him, BTW), they worked with specialists and the relevant agencies to produce an item for which there was an urgent need.
You also seem to be more than somewhat hung up on the notion senior politicians’ contact details should be known to members of the public.
As an MP I would expect those of his constituents who wanted to know should have his contact details: it goes with the territory.
My own contacts book contains contact details of literally hundreds of politicians (rank & file and senior, upper and lower houses), all ranks of law-enforcement and regulatory agencies, and diplomats throughout Europe and the US, with a smattering (100 or so) on other continents.
From what you have have written about your past, I expect you will have something slightly similar.
Are you really saying, if circumstances warranted it, that you would not say to yourself ‘Hang on. I may be able to help. I may know somebody who knows, or knows somebody else who knows’, and get on the blower?
 
Nope, says the recently retired ex Plod and Squaddie. What do you do by the way????




And I also spent the best part of 6 years in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan working as a contractor.
Shouldn't you blur out your face, mate?
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I have read and understood the entire article, not just the negative bits, and I have no problem with what happened, given the circumstances. The clues are in the article.
The clue is that you don't give passing acquaintances your WhatsApp details.
You do realise the pandemic created a national and international emergency, don’t you, and it was all hands to the pump.
Your attitude to this is the same as your attitude to the likes of Dyson, McLaren et al becoming involved in the urgent need for ventilators.
That I'm not going to let them off for going to their mates rather than specialists? Too right.
As with this former Captain (anybody on here know him, BTW), they worked with specialists and the relevant agencies to produce an item for which there was an urgent need.
You also seem to be more than somewhat hung up on the notion senior politicians’ contact details should be known to members of the public.
There are contact details and contact details. Public and private.
As an MP I would expect those of his constituents who wanted to know should have his contact details: it goes with the territory.
Horlicks.
My own contacts book contains contact details of literally hundreds of politicians (rank & file and senior, upper and lower houses), all ranks of law-enforcement and regulatory agencies, and diplomats throughout Europe and the US, with a smattering (100 or so) on other continents.
From what you have have written about your past, I expect you will have something slightly similar.
Are you really saying, if circumstances warranted it, that you would not say to yourself ‘Hang on. I may know somebody who knows, or knows somebody else who knows’, and get on the blower?
My contact details all stayed on work phones and still do, I don't keep any and the most I'll do is keep up contacts in that god awful app which is LinkedIn - I delete older stuff from that and many aren't on it for good reason.
 
The clue is that you don't give passing acquaintances your WhatsApp details.
If that acquaintance has your mobile number and sends a ‘Please connect, I’d like to talk through something confidentially relative to a problem you have’, why not?
That I'm not going to let them off for going to their mates rather than specialists? Too right.
The invitation to help was carried in many different Charlie Charlie calls. Do some research in ‘The Engineer’ mag, for instance.
Just because you are acquainted with somebody, it doesn’t necessarily mean you are ‘mates’.

There are contact details and contact details. Public and private.
Agreed. However, why can’t/ shouldn’t a public official give out their private details to somebody they feel they can trust not to abuse that privilege?
Horlicks.
So constituents should not be allowed to know how to contact their MP? Strange world of democracy you live in.
My contact details all stayed on work phones and still do, I don't keep any and the most I'll do is keep up contacts in that god awful app which is LinkedIn - I delete older stuff from that and many aren't on it for good reason.
For security reasons I don’t keep any contact details on any electronic medium. That way they can’t be hacked at any time. Perhaps you know that. Other than colleagues and former colleagues, I have none of my contacts on Linked In, security again.

ETA: You didn’t answer my final question.
 
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Anybody wondering who gave a ‘Funny’ to my above post, don’t bother to click on it to find out. As anticipated, it’s another one of Arrse’s own Amaryllidaceae family again!
The gesture is, therefore, completely worthless.
 
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You would though, wouldn't you?

To the rest of us he comes across more as sh!tting in his hands and clapping with glee.

You're still strangely furious that I DS'd blokes for 2RGR though, aren't you?
Them as can, do.
Them as can't, teach.
 
I remember watching a programme some years ago that claimed, rather unsettlingly, either HIV or Ebola, I forget which, jumped species and became a threat to homo sapiens through sexual activity between chimpanzees and people.

Possibly through a nal intercourse

If nothing else, it explains your antecedents.
 

Themanwho

LE
Book Reviewer
Definitely worth a read. And damning if correct.
Already had 2 or 3 warnings about failing to comply with registering interests.

 

Truxx

LE
I have read and understood the entire article, not just the negative bits, and I have no problem with what happened, given the circumstances. The clues are in the article.
You do realise the pandemic created a national and international emergency, don’t you, and it was all hands to the pump.
Your attitude to this is the same as your attitude to the likes of Dyson, McLaren et al becoming involved in the urgent need for ventilators.
As with this former Captain (anybody on here know him, BTW), they worked with specialists and the relevant agencies to produce an item for which there was an urgent need.
You also seem to be more than somewhat hung up on the notion senior politicians’ contact details should be known to members of the public.
As an MP I would expect those of his constituents who wanted to know should have his contact details: it goes with the territory.
My own contacts book contains contact details of literally hundreds of politicians (rank & file and senior, upper and lower houses), all ranks of law-enforcement and regulatory agencies, and diplomats throughout Europe and the US, with a smattering (100 or so) on other continents.
From what you have have written about your past, I expect you will have something slightly similar.
Are you really saying, if circumstances warranted it, that you would not say to yourself ‘Hang on. I may be able to help. I may know somebody who knows, or knows somebody else who knows’, and get on the blower?
Or he could have filled in the readily available online form to register an ability/willingness to provide assistance.

It wasn't bloody rocket science.
 
Aahhh, are you still sad about losing????

I think you are.
Your only reason for you thinking I support Labour is that I clearly believe Boris Johnson to be a dick. I hold Labour in as much contempt as I do the present version of the Tories. The crucial difference is that the Tories are the lot currently in power. What Labour thinks, says, believes and does is of no consequence to me for that reason.

I would hardly expect an unquestioning Boris worshipper such as yourself to understand that. To you, anyone who believes Boris to be a wide boy, a chancer and a fraud might as well call himself Trotsky. That's how absolutely deluded you are.

We'll have to start calling you 'Micro McCarthy' ('Mic-Mac' for short), I think.
 
It's worth a read? Really?
That says something about you.

If you don’t care, who finances Bozo’s luxury holidays, and the fact that he feels free to apparently not declare them correctly, then that’s your choice.

We have a 2 tier double standards system, when cops are supposed to refuse a bacon roll for fear of being compromised.

Essentially we have little to no idea who Bozo is beholden to.
 

Helm

MIA
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Book Reviewer
Your only reason for you thinking I support Labour is that I clearly believe Boris Johnson to be a dick. I hold Labour in as much contempt as I do the present version of the Tories. The crucial difference is that the Tories are the lot currently in power. What Labour thinks, says, believes and does is of no consequence to me for that reason.

I would hardly expect an unquestioning Boris worshipper such as yourself to understand that. To you, anyone who believes Boris to be a wide boy, a chancer and a fraud might as well call himself Trotsky. That's how absolutely deluded you are.

We'll have to start calling you 'Micro McCarthy' ('Mic-Mac' for short), I think.
The Tories were last in Govt in 1868.
 

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