Boris - The Prime Minister

[LeoRoverman]

Detection, is a term used to describe a Home Office standard that would indicate a charge, caution, FPN in relation to a crime as opposed to The Sherlock Holmes type.

I take your point. You’ll forgive me if I use words in their proper context. Nothing in the HO surprises me.

 

[76mill]

I get the feeling you want the vaccine roll out to be a failure , do you do any police work , your permanently on here

Reg Hollis did more police work!

 

[Moderator]

It is growing legs... from this earlier today:

Technical issue resolved after '150,000 police records lost'

The Home Office says it is working to "assess the impact" of the issue, which has been resolved.

www.bbc.co.uk

To this tonight:

Police probes compromised after computer records deleted

A letter from police chiefs also says 213,000 records were lost - more than first thought.

www.bbc.co.uk

A lot of the article is just this morning's piece with the new stuff on top but there is a bit more clarity as to the how...

a "weeding system", developed and deployed by a Home Office PNC team, started to delete records wrongly last November.

The process was only brought to a halt at the start of this week.

 

[LeoRoverman]

Sky this morning 400,000 almost there to match HMRC

 

[beemer007]

Appeasing the claimants with a one off £500 bung while taxpayers continue to graft.....

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[shouldknowbetter]

Appeasing the claimants with a one off £500 bung while taxpayers continue to graft.....

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Well from the governments perspective it’s win win. They give taxpayer money to 6 million people many of whom, I’m fairly certain, will not be sensible with it but will splurge it on something nice. The government looks benevolent, the economy gets quite a bit of the £3 billion back into it, the government gets a bit back as tax and it’s only the taxpayer, who has no choice in either paying tax or what its used for who gets shafted. Lets face it, not much of that money is going to be kept back to be spent at £20/month to cover the shortfall. It’ll be TVs, clothes and tattoos a plenty.

 

[flieslikeabeagle]

saw this this morning but it seems to have now vanished without any trace

NHS Staff Call For Boris Johnson To Go In Downing Street Protest​

and there were the usual pictures of NHS staff there in PPE and scrubs , complaining about a lack of PPE in the hospitals
Now forgive me for being a by cynical , but if they are there in scrubs , they have either come off shift and not changed (therefore possibly carrying covid on them ) or they are about to go on shift , wearing scrubs that may now carry covid, into the hospitals

or they could just be the usual Momentum actors playing doctors and nurses again ( with the odd real nurse thrown in for a bit of authenticity

and besides that , they are complaining they are emotionally drained , and worn out tired, yet not tired enough that they can go over to Downing St. to protest

 

[Moderator]

saw this this morning but it seems to have now vanished without any trace

NHS Staff Call For Boris Johnson To Go In Downing Street Protest​

This... from LADbible?

The protest - which was planned to coincide with the Clap For Heroes at 8pm - saw five campaigners in PPE hold a banner which read: "You failed the public, You failed the NHS, Boris must go."

The police will certainly have struggled to contain that demonstration then...

Police arrived at the scene around five minutes after the protest began and the campaigners then dispersed.

 

[wetsmonkey]

I think this neatly encapsulates what I was saying 12 days ago. Quite damning.

 

[Kitmarlowe]

I think this neatly encapsulates what I was saying 12 days ago. Quite damning.

When the medical journals publish articles like this

Children are not COVID-19 super spreaders: time to go back to school | Archives of Disease in Childhood

And this

Exclusive: We finally know how much kids spread coronavirus. Here’s how it can help schools.

Big decisions around COVID-19 and children have been heavy on politics and short on science. New large-scale studies are changing that.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Them what are the politicians to do ?

The experts are telling them that children are a poor disease source. That's the experts everyone was whinging that Government was ignoring. Now people are whining that the Governmemt did the wrong thing when following the advice from the experts.

Make your ducking mind up.

 

[flieslikeabeagle]

This... from LADbible?

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The police will certainly have struggled to contain that demonstration then...

that's the one , no PPE because they are taking it home with them , and an illegal gathering

 

[Themanwho]

When the medical journals publish articles like this

Children are not COVID-19 super spreaders: time to go back to school | Archives of Disease in Childhood

And this

Exclusive: We finally know how much kids spread coronavirus. Here’s how it can help schools.

Big decisions around COVID-19 and children have been heavy on politics and short on science. New large-scale studies are changing that.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Them what are the politicians to do ?

The experts are telling them that children are a poor disease source. That's the experts everyone was whinging that Government was ignoring. Now people are whining that the Governmemt did the wrong thing when following the advice from the experts.

Make your ducking mind up.

The experts get things wrong too, and when they do the politicians who follow their advice take the blame.

Fair enough in most cases, because even though the experts got this thing wrong, they are still the best bet for good advice in the future. Sacking a virologist or doctor for advocating this course of action will just deprive the Government of advice from someone who knows more than they do.

The partisan hyper-critical silliness of the media and the usual suspects just make it harder for government to follow what they judge to be the best path; everything is second guessed, there's a plethora of talking heads claiming to be experts (and I'm sure some actually are experts in the specific field, but not all of them) who will denigrate whatever decision is made.

The only choice appears to be in the words of Churchill "Keep Buggering On", stick to the plan, sell it as best as they can, consider all the advice and make the decisions in good faith. It won't stop all the ********* criticising everything, but it's better than having to bend the best course of action due to political pressures. Mostly that is what Johnson's Government appears to be doing, thankfully.

 

[wetsmonkey]

The experts get things wrong too, and when they do the politicians who follow their advice take the blame.

Fair enough in most cases, because even though the experts got this thing wrong, they are still the best bet for good advice in the future. Sacking a virologist or doctor for advocating this course of action will just deprive the Government of advice from someone who knows more than they do.

The partisan hyper-critical silliness of the media and the usual suspects just make it harder for government to follow what they judge to be the best path; everything is second guessed, there's a plethora of talking heads claiming to be experts (and I'm sure some actually are experts in the specific field, but not all of them) who will denigrate whatever decision is made.

The only choice appears to be in the words of Churchill "Keep Buggering On", stick to the plan, sell it as best as they can, consider all the advice and make the decisions in good faith. It won't stop all the ********* criticising everything, but it's better than having to bend the best course of action due to political pressures. Mostly that is what Johnson's Government appears to be doing, thankfully.

He hasn’t really stuck to his course though has he? He has made numerous u turns, usually too late despite being advised way before.

 

[Kitmarlowe]

He hasn’t really stuck to his course though has he? He has made numerous u turns, usually too late despite being advised way before.

Or you could say he's accepted that the advice and the environment has changed so guidance has to change.

Depends if you want be a mature adult and regard the current shitshow as what it is. An utterly unforeseen event not helped by experts who failed to grasp quickly enough how troublesome this was, deceived by a Government incapable of telling the truth and having the drama of dealing with a population who repeatedly show the mental capacity of a spoilt 5 year old.

Or you behave like a hyper active said spoilt brat and whine pointlessly at everything.

 

[Auld-Yin]

I think this neatly encapsulates what I was saying 12 days ago. Quite damning.

Boris Grrrr

 

[Auld-Yin]

He hasn’t really stuck to his course though has he? He has made numerous u turns, usually too late despite being advised way before.

Boris Grrr

 

[Moderator]

Depends if you want be a mature adult

It’s @wetsmonkey... mental age of five going on four unfortunately.

 

[wetsmonkey]

Or you could say he's accepted that the advice and the environment has changed so guidance has to change.

Depends if you want be a mature adult and regard the current shitshow as what it is. An utterly unforeseen event not helped by experts who failed to grasp quickly enough how troublesome this was, deceived by a Government incapable of telling the truth and having the drama of dealing with a population who repeatedly show the mental capacity of a spoilt 5 year old.

Or you behave like a hyper active said spoilt brat and whine pointlessly at everything.

It just appears that he ignores the advice, until the last moment, when he then snaps and does what he should have done earlier.

 

[wetsmonkey]

Boris Grrrr

Which bits do you disagree with?

 

[pete49]

He hasn’t really stuck to his course though has he? He has made numerous u turns, usually too late despite being advised way before.

The media call them u turns but I’d say he’s reacting to a virus and being advised by experts , but we,l belive the MSM shall we