Boris - The Prime Minister

[Archimedes]

Thirty years prior to Dennis Healy being Chancellor of the Exchequer he was a member of the Communist Party of GB. It didn't make him a communist in the 70's though

A propos of nothing, but I suspect Boris might have employed him as the negotiator with Barnier. When negotiating with the IMF in 1976, it is on the record that when Dr Johannes Wittveen (head of the IMF) attempted to impose last minute additional conditions on the loan ‘the Chancellor said that Dr Wittveen could take a running jump.’

The additional conditions were dropped...

 

[rgjbloke]

Wot having been told they will not get residual rights, will have to accept the Euro even if accepted. I know that Caviar comes from Sturgeons, but I don’t think for one minute they really have a death wish. Now Salmons have one built in.

Think again!

What is the SNP’s position on the EU? — Scottish National Party

The SNP believes that membership of Europe Union is in Scotland’s best interests. There are a huge number of benefits for Scotland from EU membership including that the EU is the main destination for…

www.snp.org

 

[johnboyzzz]

Think again!

What is the SNP’s position on the EU? — Scottish National Party

The SNP believes that membership of Europe Union is in Scotland’s best interests. There are a huge number of benefits for Scotland from EU membership including that the EU is the main destination for…

www.snp.org

You forget that we would have to meet certain criteria to join, not re-join, we do not meet those criteria

 

[rgjbloke]

You forget that we would have to meet certain criteria to join, not re-join, we do not meet those criteria

Someone had better break that news to the SNP.

We would hate them to have a policy that can’t be carried out.

Presumably, they’d bin it so the voters weren’t misled!

 

[johnboyzzz]

Someone had better break that news to the SNP.

We would hate them to have a policy that can’t be carried out.

Presumably, they’d bin it so the voters weren’t misled!

Behave they don't listen to anyone.

 

[Moderator]

Someone had better break that news to the SNP.

The SNP already know the problems - not insurmountable perhaps but there is no quick and easy way to join the EU as a newly independent state.

Have a read here... and this chap is a pro EU Scot.

Like a dodgy car salesman, Sturgeon is telling the punters all about the sat nav and cup holders but not about the sawdust filled gearbox and dodgy steering.

 

[mechanicalhorsetrough]

Question, sorry to mention the B Word, but seeing as all the Brexit threads are shut, I wanted to ask a serious question about where we are, as the PM prepares to get involved this weekend with the post Brexit trade deal process.
I keep seeing in the media that the sticking points on a trade deal are 3 fold, governance, fishing rights and level playing field.
I sort of understand the fishing thing, the EU (French) now want access to British waters for a 10 year transition period, not acceptable, but what is acceptable?
What is the issue with governance, what does Britain want and what does the EU want?
Is the level playing field centred around standards and prices of goods coming from EU to us and goods leaving the UK bound for the EU? If not what is it?

 

[Buttmaster General]

Let's see how today's talks between Boris and VDL go. I suspect we are about to see whether the French or Germans will wear the trousers in the post-UK EU....

Is that the sound of Panzer engines starting up I hear from across the Channel?

 

[johnboyzzz]

The SNP already know the problems - not insurmountable perhaps but there is no quick and easy way to join the EU as a newly independent state.

Have a read here... and this chap is a pro EU Scot.

Like a dodgy car salesman, Sturgeon is telling the punters all about the sat nav and cup holders but not about the sawdust filled gearbox and dodgy steering.

She can't lie straight in bed, although her bit on the side would know better than me - allegedly.

 

[WightMivvi]

Question, sorry to mention the B Word, but seeing as all the Brexit threads are shut, I wanted to ask a serious question about where we are, as the PM prepares to get involved this weekend with the post Brexit trade deal process.
I keep seeing in the media that the sticking points on a trade deal are 3 fold, governance, fishing rights and level playing field.
I sort of understand the fishing thing, the EU (French) now want access to British waters for a 10 year transition period, not acceptable, but what is acceptable?
What is the issue with governance, what does Britain want and what does the EU want?
Is the level playing field centred around standards and prices of goods coming from EU to us and goods leaving the UK bound for the EU? If not what is it?

I did see something about two issues that were part of the “level playing field”.

One part was that the EU did not like the idea of us making the UK more attractive to manufacturers by reducing employment and environmental standards. By all account, the UK agreed to keep the current standards / rules / laws. That was acceptable to the EU up until this week when the EU demanded that we add to the current employment / environmental laws when the EU adds to theirs. Basically, if the EU decided to increase manufacturing costs, the UK must do the same. This is basically a case of Brussels imposing their decisions on the UK with the UK having no say.

The second part was to do with banning unfair subsidies that might give an industry / company an unfair advantage. Again, both sides were close to an agreement. The UK and EU member would agree to not have those sort of subsidies. Then, this week, it emerged that the EU was going to create a big fund that the EU would use to subsidise EU industry. Strictly speaking, this wouldn’t break the agreement preventing the UK and member states subsidising industry because it would be the EU (not the member states) issuing the subsidies. However, the end result would be industries within the EU being able to get subsidies that the UK was banned from providing.

 

[Mediaeval]

Is that the sound of Panzer engines starting up I hear from across the Channel?

'Fraid not....

 

[Buttmaster General]

'Fraid not....

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What is the German for camouflage?

 

[Bravo_Bravo]

So you've realised the EU would stitch the UK up. Welcome to the party. Better late than never I suppose.

Did anyone ever think otherwise?

Seriously?

 

[Brotherton Lad]

What is the German for camouflage?

Die Tarnung.

 

[exbluejob]

What is the German for camouflage?

Would rather know the French.

 

[Wightsparker]

Would rather know the French.

Surely that is simply a white flag?

 

[Trackpen]

Would rather know the French.

I would have said George W. Bush walt.
But Snopes says I should not.

 

[LeoRoverman]

Think again!

What is the SNP’s position on the EU? — Scottish National Party

The SNP believes that membership of Europe Union is in Scotland’s best interests. There are a huge number of benefits for Scotland from EU membership including that the EU is the main destination for…

www.snp.org

with respect , what the SNP thinks, is not how the EU works. The quicker Sturgeon gets to to understand that the easier her life will be.

 

[rgjbloke]

with respect , what the SNP thinks, is not how the EU works. The quicker Sturgeon gets to to understand that the easier her life will be.

I actually think Sturgeon understands perfectly well how it all works.

She also understands that the majority of Scots voted to remain in the EU in the referendum and if she can convince those people that she will take them back into the EU, she’s more likely to be able to count on their support in a future referendum on Scottish independence.

She can then let them down after independence is a done deal and probably into the bargain blame the English for the whole mess in the first place.

Cynical?...... Moi!!

 

[LeoRoverman]

She also understands that the majority of Scots voted

It matters not one jot, the Scots have no FP remit, that remains the prerogative of Westminster, where the Scots put it in 1707. The entire country voted in the Brexit referendum unlike the Scottish Indy ref. Nor does it include the Scots who voted leave but live in England. She's been told by the EU what the terms are. The UK signed in 1973 not the Scots- but the UK as an entity. A scot gave them devolution, A scot now wants an end to the Union-well tough A union consists of more than just one and the bigger entity had a say.