Boris - The Prime Minister

[Mediaeval]

I agree. The UK is economically soft right and socially soft left.

Live your life how you want, just don’t expect me to pay to indulge your choices.

I also suspect that the majority of voters were, at least, uneasy about the political behaviours following the referendum.

Lab / Lib really misread the mood of the country and assumed that Twitter / protests / petitions represented the views of the population rather then the views of a vocal metropolitan minority.

They assumed “Boris grrr”, “Brexit grrr” and “Tories grrr” was all they needed to win. This meant they didn’t provide a realistic alternative.

Exactly. The British public will only accept political correction so far, but the true believers want to go all the way. When they reach the point of pushback, true believers resort to authoritarian measures, which increases the pushback.

This is exactly what happened to Osborne/Cameron with Project Fear and Margaret Thatcher with the poll tax.

 

[Auld-Yin]

Besides, Johnson is having a torrid time, so why shouldn't the conversation digress to more interesting military things?

Torrid? In what way? I'm sure he sleeps well of a night as things seem to be going swimmingly.

 

[Berlin_104s]

I must admit, I'd always wondered about the moniker DON 10. I'd never have imagined I'd find the answer on a thread about Boris Johnson

In the RMP, every sect has a DonR - Despatch Rider on his/her motor bike.

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[Brotherton Lad]

Torrid? In what way? I'm sure he sleeps well of a night as things seem to be going swimmingly.

Blimey! His Premiership is visibly imploding.

 

[Auld-Yin]

Blimey! His Premiership is visibly imploding.

In what way?

 

[LeoRoverman]

Blimey! His Premiership is visibly imploding.

Oh my word, you wish.

 

[Emcon Ecomcon]

Exactly. The British public will only accept political correction so far, but the true believers want to go all the way. When they reach the point of pushback, true believers resort to authoritarian measures, which increases the pushback.

This is exactly what happened to Osborne/Cameron with Project Fear and Margaret Thatcher with the poll tax.

That is a pretty good analysis and perhaps the thing, which will see Boris through is his sense of humour. My theory is you still need true believers to provide the energy and offer a cause for people to rally around and Boris as yet, hasn't found one that chimes with me, apart from Brexit.

If he ditched the BBC, then despite my dislike of him and his green bollox, then he would certainly push me along, like a Sgt grabbing you by the webbing and pushing you along when your falling out from a hard run, CFT or otherwise (happened once and I was at the MRS next morning with the Flu).

 

[Brotherton Lad]

Oh my word, you wish.

It's not a matter of wishing.

 

[Bravo_Bravo]

Besides, Johnson is having a torrid time, so why shouldn't the conversation digress to more interesting military things?

Some people would have you believe he's doing a great job.

Astonishing, eh?

 

[Snowy.]

Looks like Boris and co are gonna sell us out to the EU tonight...

 

[Electromagnetic]

Looks like Boris and co are gonna sell us out to the EU tonight...

Any reference or links?

 

[Snowy.]

Any reference or links?

Pizzas have been delivered for a late night... plus that ****** Bozo has offered the EU 40% of our fish..

Brexit LIVE: Late-night negotiations underway as UK-EU deal could be secured 'in days'

THE UK and European Union are locked in late-night negotiations over a post-Brexit trade deal, with the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg revealing an agreement could be finalised by the end of this week.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Lardbeast]

End of the conservative party if he does that, along with an open door for Farage to have another go.

Pretty sure he realises that. What he does about it will be of interest.

 

[Emcon Ecomcon]

End of the conservative party if he does that, along with an open door for Farage to have another go.

Pretty sure he realises that. What he does about it will be of interest.

As ever with the EU, our government will cast this as a great victory and I expect most people will grudgingly go along with it.. But, when the fine print is checked and people have time to mull over this and other less than conservative behaviour can't be ignored, I expect the tory party will bounce back, but find that 5, 10, 15% of its core vote disappears (national share will drop below 38%).

It may come back for the next General Election as others claim. But in the meantime, the local elections are going to be very painful.

 

[Mediaeval]

As ever with the EU, our government will cast this as a great victory and I expect most people will grudgingly go along with it.. But, when the fine print is checked and people have time to mull over this and other less than conservative behaviour can't be ignored, I expect the tory party will bounce back, but find that 5, 10, 15% of its core vote disappears (national share will drop below 38%).

It may come back for the next General Election as others claim. But in the meantime, the local elections are going to be very painful.

Let’s see what they actually agreed first...

 

[Truxx]

Open your eyes, my little Boris Yummy Bear.

Answer the question. Then we will all be that little bit wiser.

And for the record I am not a Boris fanboi, far from it.

What I am though, is someone with an ability to spot bullsh1t at a thousand places.

 

[Mediaeval]

That is a pretty good analysis and perhaps the thing, which will see Boris through is his sense of humour. My theory is you still need true believers to provide the energy and offer a cause for people to rally around and Boris as yet, hasn't found one that chimes with me, apart from Brexit.

If he ditched the BBC, then despite my dislike of him and his green bollox, then he would certainly push me along, like a Sgt grabbing you by the webbing and pushing you along when your falling out from a hard run, CFT or otherwise (happened once and I was at the MRS next morning with the Flu).

Agree on the role of activists, but it could be argued that after years of progressivism and the resultant BREXIT backlash, our politics needs to restore some balance.

If we keep pushing too far to the right, it will inevitably push people to the left. Progressivism is quite powerful enough as it is...

 

[Emcon Ecomcon]

Agree on the role of activists, but it could be argued that after years of progressivism and the resultant BREXIT backlash, our politics needs to restore some balance.

If we keep pushing too far to the right, it will inevitably push people to the left. Progressivism is quite powerful enough as it is...

Progressivism/Socialism whatever you want to call it. The long march through the instiutions is complete and why I think the tories, run scared on pretty much all issues is largely because they're are intimidated by the other side who seem to control everything.... Boris however is a man who knows how to throw his hat in the ring and Brexit was his one moment and desperate fools that we are, we grabbed it.

I take issue with your 'pushing too far to the right', as it doesn't stop the other side prodding us constantly to the extent the push back started in the first place. Now normality is set to return; do we go back to the years of cringe, or continue to make a stand. As I see it, the culture war has three categories:-

For, against and the majority inbetween, who are minded to go to whichever side controls everything.

 

[WightMivvi]

...plus that ****** Bozo has offered the EU 40% of our fish..

I’m quite relaxed about giving the EU a quota: we don’t have enough trawlers to catch the available (at a sustainable level ) fish anyway.

The important thing for me is the sense of who has control of UK waters. If the EU accepts the principle that the waters are ours, that they will abide by by our rules, then I’m quite relaxed about who gets his much of the overall catch.

 

[Moderator]

Blimey! His Premiership is visibly imploding.

of course it is Soupy...

... Given your track record, should we take that assertion as actually meaning:

Blimey! His Premiership is visibly flourishing

You are generally 180° opposed to reality.