Boris Johnson referred again for breaching Covid rules

[WightMivvi]

If the story of the Emperor's New Clothes was written today, it'd be full of people claiming allegations of nudity were simply Emperor Derangement Syndrome and that going down with hypothermia was actually a jolly clever tactic, when you think about it.

Incorrect. If it was written today, the plebs would be called thick racists for pointing out that the Emperor was naked, and the Emperor’s advisors would then do everything they could to kill the Emperor’s successor when the Emperor inevitably succumbed to hypothermia.

But I see you’re still dodging the question: is it reasonable for people to ask “stupid” questions in a quest for understanding?

 

[WightMivvi]

You asked!

Rhetorical question.

Is it in JSP101? Although I’ve no idea what you’re on about tbh. Do you know?

Who uses JSP101? From what I could see, it went out of fashion in the early noughties. It was too difficult for graduates who had years of being conditioned to use minimum word counts…

 

[LeoRoverman]

If the story of the Emperor's New Clothes was written today, it'd be full of people claiming allegations of nudity were simply Emperor Derangement Syndrome and that going down with hypothermia was actually a jolly clever tactic, when you think about it.

It would be highly apt for the movers and shakers of international society today.

 

[smartascarrots]

But I see you’re still dodging the question: is it reasonable for people to ask “stupid” questions in a quest for understanding?

I've answered that multiple times already, so don't think you can keep the goalposts on castors until you think you've a gotcha moment.

Stupid questions are stupid, plain and simple, and a government briefing on an emerging national emergency is no place for the Socratic method.

 

[WightMivvi]

I've answered that multiple times already, so don't think you can keep the goalposts on castors until you think you've a gotcha moment.

I’m not sure how consistently asking the same question to try and elicit an answer is “moving the goal posts”, but I’m used to the “Grr” brigade resorting to projection when whataboutery fails.

Stupid questions are stupid, plain and simple, and a government briefing on an emerging national emergency is no place for the Socratic method.

I don’t think, “Someone says sticking a hairdryer up your nose will kill covid. Will it?” (plus the lack of reports that Boris was advocating the idea or trying to convince people about it) meets the criteria for the Socratic method.

Still, it was a nice try.

 

[CutLunchCommando]

Not being Boris.
Come on, you don't expect intelligence from a carrot.

I'm genuinely interested. Is it a turn of phrase or is there an actual Leadership Test (whatever the source)?

 

[smartascarrots]

What is the leadership test Carrots?

Integrity, honesty and humility. Basic traits of a leader that anyone with service experience should recognise even without any leadership training.

He's yet to get on the scorecard, IMO.

 

[CutLunchCommando]

Integrity, honesty and humility. Basic traits of a leader that anyone with service experience should recognise even without any leadership training.

He's yet to get on the scorecard, IMO.

Fair enough, I recognise your point. Not a "Test" like the Service Test though?

 

[smartascarrots]

Fair enough, I recognise your point. Not a "Test" like the Service Test though?

More a turn of phrase to remind people that the most essential factor in leadership is the opinion of the led.

 

[CutLunchCommando]

More a turn of phrase to remind people that the most essential factor in leadership is the opinion of the led.

Indeed, although the led on this occasion were a variety of Parlimentarians (not Tory party members who ISTR decide on his ensconcement).

 

[smartascarrots]

Indeed, although the led on this occasion were a variety of Parlimentarians (not Tory party members who ISTR decide on his ensconcement).

The led on this occasion were the population of the UK.

The appointing committee were the Parliamentary Conservative Party.

 

[CutLunchCommando]

The led on this occasion were the population of the UK.

The appointing committee were the Parliamentary Conservative Party.

Don't recall being involved as one of the led. Anyone else?

 

[smartascarrots]

Don't recall being involved as one of the led. Anyone else?

You don't recall being governed by the Johnson cabinet?

Have you mentioned this to your GP?

 

[CutLunchCommando]

You don't recall being governed by the Johnson cabinet?

Have you mentioned this to your GP?

How does being governed involve my opinion?

More a turn of phrase to remind people that the most essential factor in leadership is the opinion of the led.

If only we had a method of testing the opinion of the led.

 

[smartascarrots]

How does being governed involve my opinion?

The principle of consent by the governed to the government.

It's all the rage.

If only we had a method of testing the opinion of the led.

We do and they're really effective when we ask a specific question at regular intervals.

The last the governed were asked their opinion, only 43.6% who replied consented by next to Boris's leadership.