Boot fitting

#1
Just been chatting in the office and we came to the conclusion that none of us had ever had out feet measured for correct fitting of boots.

I always wore size 10 until I was measured for some Altbergs a couple of years ago and was told I should be wearing size 11. Most amusing.

Has or does the system measure feet for correct fitting of boots?
 
#2
General,

I've just had a similar problem with my Altbergs and the factory have admitted that Altberg sizes are actually smaller than everywhere else. I'm a size 9 but need a size 10 in Altbergs.
 
#3
Oh I see. Would be better if the issue boots were in half sizes.
 
#4
Why not just put foot in boot. If comfortable ok if not get another size.
 
#5
wrinkles said:
Why not just put foot in boot. If comfortable ok if not get another size.
What feels comfortable in the stores isn't necessarily the right size to go tabbing in.

I recall reading that one of the main deficiencies on mobilisation in 1914 was that Battalions couldn't come up with the required number of bootmakers to fill their establishment.

Makes a change from today, when any SoS Defence can supply all the cobblers you'll ever need...
 
#6
hey,

your better trying everything on. sizes are basically lying bastards.
Altbergs are good boots but they tell everbody they need one size up, worth a trip if your in richmond though to get a good pair od boots.

My defenders are going strong after 5 years and they can do a resole too.
 
#7
I'm wearing 9.5 Altbergs with thick Sorbothan insole but was issued 8m, correct fit with cheese grater insole but too small with Sorbo's. It seems that all decent boot makers come up small, Lord alone knows why. Lowas seem to be almost a whole size too small as are the issue German Army Mountain boots and Hanwag are half a size out. Jungle boots are a whole different breed and I've never found any that are comfortable from regular to extra wide.

Having made myself look a little sad and under the influence of a boot fetish I'll answer the original question. I was measured for my boots on joining. A very nice lady gave me some issue socks and a sand filled bergen and stood me on a foot measuring thing like they used when I was at school. Then she gave me boots to try on and I was issued 8m.
 
#8
nastyberganchafe said:
hey,

your better trying everything on. sizes are basically lying bastards.
Too true. I got a pair of goretex salopettes, that according to the label, were 2 inches bigger than my waist. When I tried putting them on in the horizontal rain lashing Hythe Range last month I couldnt even get them up past my thighs. Wrong label entirely. Now I know why the storeman chuckled when I signed for them! :frustrated:
 
#9
General Melchett said:
Just been chatting in the office and we came to the conclusion that none of us had ever had out feet measured for correct fitting of boots.

I always wore size 10 until I was measured for some Altbergs a couple of years ago and was told I should be wearing size 11. Most amusing.

Has or does the system measure feet for correct fitting of boots?
Compare to the outside world. Only kids get the feet measurement thingy. Once you're an upright-walking adult, you can usually express whether something feels comfortable or not!
 
#10
General Melchett said:
Just been chatting in the office and we came to the conclusion that none of us had ever had out feet measured for correct fitting of boots.

I always wore size 10 until I was measured for some Altbergs a couple of years ago and was told I should be wearing size 11. Most amusing.

Has or does the system measure feet for correct fitting of boots?
Hmm, our clothing storeman still has a gadget for sizing of boots (looks like it was nicked out of clarks). It has the mondo?? sizing a'la boots cardboard high!!

RTMC has the right idea when it comes to sizing boots! Last time i was there you were to try on the boots with insoles as issued with socks with a CFT weight bergan. This (apparently) was to ensure the boots still fitted when carrying a combat load. Seems like a good idea!

I usually take a size 9m and 9.5 in altbergs!! Considering going up to size 10 though!
 
#11
General Melchett said:
Just been chatting in the office and we came to the conclusion that none of us had ever had out feet measured for correct fitting of boots.

I always wore size 10 until I was measured for some Altbergs a couple of years ago and was told I should be wearing size 11. Most amusing.

Has or does the system measure feet for correct fitting of boots?
At the risk of being laughed off Arrse........you always got 1 size bigger in boots than your shoes to allow for insoles and thicker socks????.......also 1 size up or down is only 3mm IIRC,not a great problem if bigger but useless if smaller,also many peoples´ left foot is wider than their right!

Also if you´re buying your Levi´s(or anything else) in the PX,an American inch is slightly larger than the English one!NODUFF!
 
#12
I always get at least a size larger boots than I do shoes. That comes from experience - my feet swell on a long tab.

Also I do the final sizing arse about face.

1. Get a decent insole (Sorbothane always used to be best)
2. Get boots slightly too big.
3. Adjust fit by using different combinations/thicknesses of sock.
 
#13
When I exchanged my old boots at the stores I was surprised to hear that they were size 42 (I usually take a 44 in civvy shoes).

Do they still have those strange sizes on British issue boots? Mine were 270 or something like that.
 
#14
I'm after some Altbergs but don't want to shell out until I've had my feet measured for them. Where can one get this service done?

This isn't a wah before anyone says so
 
#16
About 2 years ago, I trotted off to the QM's to exchange a pair of boots that had seen better days.

"Pair of size 10 medium please."

"You mean size 11 medium?"

"No, definately size 10 - been size 10 since I was 15 years old."

"How long you had these boots?"

"About 3 years, why?"

" Because they're size 11's."

I actually got a size 10 because after I tried them on, they fitted, just like the previous pair that were 11's. The size is relatively unimportant - how many of you have bought (or were issued from man at Q&M's) a pair of boots/shoes without trying them on?
 
#17
BeastAppreciationSociety. said:
StabTiffy2B said:
I'm after some Altbergs but don't want to shell out until I've had my feet measured for them. Where can one get this service done?

This isn't a wah before anyone says so
At the factory during the initial consultation?
Is that the only place you can get it done because I really don't fancy that journey just to get my feet measued?
 
#18
StabTiffy2B said:
BeastAppreciationSociety. said:
StabTiffy2B said:
I'm after some Altbergs but don't want to shell out until I've had my feet measured for them. Where can one get this service done?

This isn't a wah before anyone says so
At the factory during the initial consultation?
Is that the only place you can get it done because I really don't fancy that journey just to get my feet measued?
Stand on a piece of paper and draw round the outline. This'll give them the size and width fitting as well as a good idea of how high your instep is and how far you pronate, etc. I did that for mine (purchased 1994) and they fitted perfectly.
 
#19
Last week I was at the Altberg factory shop in Richmond (mum is having some custom-made cork insoles - long story, but her feet are u/s following surgery). I've got a pair of Altberg's already, but they had on display all their boots (civvy and mil) and I picked up a pair of the lightweight ones for 109.00 and supportive insoles for 15.99.

There was a constant flow of bikers, coppers, ramblers and squaddies coming in for boots, it was more like a Village People convention than a boot factory.

For several weeks I've been attempting to exchange my issue boots but the Garrison clothing store have no size 11's (nothing between 7-13). Silvermans said they have plenty at 39.99 or I could have got the lightweight Lowa boots for 90.00 downtown.

My issue assault boots have metal pop rivets holding the inner/mid-sole together, these have gone rusty and come out (I found one embedded under the insole) and I've given up all hope of getting them exchanged now :yawnstretch:

The Altberg's weren't cheap but look better (hand-made) and they will resole them which has to be cheapest option in the long term.

Once you know your size they can supply off-the-shelf by mail, so I'd recommend a visit to their factory shop to try them on or get a custom-fit regardless of where you're currently posted.
 
#20
I called in at Altberg in December to buy a pair of walking shoes - now only made to measure. Despite being measured and trying on a 'similar style' pair of 10's that were too big (I am a 9L) the decision was to go for a 9.5.

Despite telling the fitter that I have a wide foot (although you would think they noticed as I was there in person!) the shoes finally arrived last week! Too small with not enough 'volume' with the factory insoles - ok without. :frustrated:

I was not too impressed by the quality of finish so took them back for a refund.

The moral is try on the style you want - don't rely on mail order. As a result of all this I can confirm that Altberg's come up small.

An alternative boot is Belleville - similar to Danner but cheaper. Whilst we may be the best country in the world at making fine shoes USA seem to have the 'edge' over mil boot manufacture! Order these half a size bigger than UK fit.
 

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