Bond Forged Between NYFD, & Navy SEAL Team

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Trip_Wire said:
Bond Forged Between New York Department, Navy SEALs

Lt. Michael Murphy wore it on every mission, including his last - the fiery red patch of Engine 53, Ladder 43, El Barrio's Bravest. Now the East Harlem firefighters wear one, too.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?id=56727§ionId=46
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
 
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Red Shrek said:
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
Are you kidding or is this more '' They all have Irish names so they must be IRA supporters'' bullshit.
 
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Red Shrek said:
Trip_Wire said:
Bond Forged Between New York Department, Navy SEALs

Lt. Michael Murphy wore it on every mission, including his last - the fiery red patch of Engine 53, Ladder 43, El Barrio's Bravest. Now the East Harlem firefighters wear one, too.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?id=56727§ionId=46
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
You have lost me there, Shrek. It wasn't them that we had to cover for on Op Fresco, was it? :?
 
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ronnie12398 said:
Red Shrek said:
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
Are you kidding or is this more '' They all have Irish names so they must be IRA supporters'' bullshit.
Chris Neopolitano does'nt sound particularly Irish.....
 
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sc_obvious said:
ronnie12398 said:
Red Shrek said:
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
Are you kidding or is this more '' They all have Irish names so they must be IRA supporters'' bullshit.
Chris Neopolitano does'nt sound particularly Irish.....
That's because it isn't, and because they don't all have Irish names. Unfortunately, I've seen British poster (from ARRSE) on an American board say as much. That he saw all the Irish names of the dead FDNY members killed on 9/11 and thought that they got what they deserved.
 
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ronnie12398 said:
sc_obvious said:
ronnie12398 said:
Red Shrek said:
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
Are you kidding or is this more '' They all have Irish names so they must be IRA supporters'' bullshit.
Chris Neopolitano does'nt sound particularly Irish.....
That's because it isn't, and because they don't all have Irish names. Unfortunately, I've seen British poster (from ARRSE) on an American board say as much. That he saw all the Irish names of the dead FDNY members killed on 9/11 and thought that they got what they deserved.
Well then the poster should be re-educated with a big sharp pointy thing. That's not the consensus in the UK and I will happily correct anyone who asserts such a thing in my presence.

I find it difficult to believe that's what Shrek was implying - more probable that he was referring to Firemen in general not being too popular due to the strike they carried out a few years back here.

Although I;m far from sure, it's a very random statement from Shrek...
 
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So from one post you immediately assume that we will jump on the bandwagon ? you may or may not be aware that members of the UK Armed Forces had to cover a Firemans strike a couple of years ago over pay when on average, a fireman is on £6000 more per annum than a Private. Fireman are not particularly popular here. Obviously nothing against the NYFD.
 
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The_Goon said:
ronnie12398 said:
sc_obvious said:
ronnie12398 said:
Red Shrek said:
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
Are you kidding or is this more '' They all have Irish names so they must be IRA supporters'' bullshit.
Chris Neopolitano does'nt sound particularly Irish.....
That's because it isn't, and because they don't all have Irish names. Unfortunately, I've seen British poster (from ARRSE) on an American board say as much. That he saw all the Irish names of the dead FDNY members killed on 9/11 and thought that they got what they deserved.
Well then the poster should be re-educated with a big sharp pointy thing. That's not the consensus in the UK and I will happily correct anyone who asserts such a thing in my presence.

I find it difficult to believe that's what Shrek was implying - more probable that he was referring to Firemen in general not being too popular due to the strike they carried out a few years back here.

Although I;m far from sure, it's a very random statement from Shrek...
I know who the poster is... not Red Shrek though.
 
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It seems my comments have caused some ire. From the time I've spent on ARRSE, I've come to understand that some of the lot on here link NORAID to the FDNY and all that jazz and that was where my comments came from. If the opinions have changed then accept my apology for the post I made.
 
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Red Shrek said:
Trip,

The NYFD is not real popular around these parts so be prepared for the flame to follow. Cheers!
I don't believe the NYFD enters the thoughts of the vast majority on this site, let alone gives cause for animosity. However, there is still some resentment towards striking UK firemen for the reasons previously stated.
 
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I find some of the discussion in this thread comical, if it wasn’t for how really tragic such comments are.

I was especially incensed by one poster’s comments that the 340 fireman responding to the Twin Towers emergency that were killed, “Got what they deserved!”

I sure have a problem with this view. These brave firefighters were trying to evacuate innocent people from a burning and collapsing building and were killed doing their sworn life saving duties. What did they do to deserve this fate? Does he (Poster) think these victims all supported the IRA? All were of Irish decent?

He (Poster) hints at Irish names and support for the IRA, etc. Did he ever look at a NY phone book or for that matter most of the large Cities on the Eastern seaboard? They are full of Irish names! Very few supported the IRA. I gave an Irish name and I didn't support the IRA or PIRA!

The fact is, that many people with Irish names didn’t support the IRA in any way, shape or form! There were according to Stats, more people in the UK that supported the IRA and PIRA with funds than Americans.

Yes both the NYPFD as well as the NYPD have many people of Irish decent. They also have as many if not more people, from other ethnic backgrounds as well. (Italians, German, Polish, Jewish, African, you name it! Many of them were KIA that day as well!

Also there were either 23 NYPD and 37 Port Authority police officers, killed that day, trying to save lives too! Did they deserve to die too?

http://nymag.com/news/articles/wtc/1year/numbers.htm

Here in the USA Fire and Policeman cannot strike, as it is against the law. So, I fail to see why our fireman should be disliked , because you haven’t prevented your fireman by law from striking. What has your fireman’s strike got to do with our non-striking fireman? :roll:
 
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Nothing, Trip. But firefighters in general are not held in high regard by some in the british forces because they went on strike when the forces could least afford to cover the strike - the run up to war.

You're jumping the gun by saying that we associate NYFD etc. with support for the IRA, Trip. No-one on this thread has said that. Shrek didn't either, he just said some one the board might feel like that.
 
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The_Goon said:
Nothing, Trip. But firefighters in general are not held in high regard by some in the british forces because they went on strike when the forces could least afford to cover the strike - the run up to war.

You're jumping the gun by saying that we associate NYFD etc. with support for the IRA, Trip. No-one on this thread has said that. Shrek didn't either, he just said some one the board might feel like that.
More bollocks about UK firefighters. It's been done to death on here, I am one who was on strike, we were shafted by the government and they used you to help break the strike, just like the Police were used against the miners. Do you think this government give a shit about soldiers, when they decide to shaft you lot yet again what will you do about it? Bend over and take it again? Sometimes enough has to be enough. BTW, take a look at the pay and conditions (and pension) of the NYFD compared to firemen in the UK. Not a bad job if you want it.
 
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ronnie12398 said:
sc_obvious said:
So from one post you immediately assume that we will jump on the bandwagon ?
Yeah. He said ''The NYFD isn't real popular around these parts...''.

Sort of specific, don't you think?
Unless he is the new spokesman for ARRSE then that was his comment exactly what SC_Obvious was pointing out.

Trip Wrote:
I was especially incensed by one poster’s comments that the 340 fireman responding to the Twin Towers emergency that were killed, “Got what they deserved!”
That my friend was a comment from Ronnie12398 about something posted on an American thread, I cannot say if it was an ARRSE Member or not however believe me, unless pulling your leg in the NAAFI, I don't believe that anyone thinks those who perished in the Twin Towers got what they deserved (perhaps apart from those hijacking the planes, they got what they deserved!)

NYFD, no personal axe to grind "Backdraft" is my only exposure though, Fire Bde in UK don't think they were right to strike however have raised some charity funds with them and they seem like a decent bunch on the whole.
 
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justbrowsing said:
The_Goon said:
Nothing, Trip. But firefighters in general are not held in high regard by some in the british forces because they went on strike when the forces could least afford to cover the strike - the run up to war.

You're jumping the gun by saying that we associate NYFD etc. with support for the IRA, Trip. No-one on this thread has said that. Shrek didn't either, he just said some one the board might feel like that.
More balls about UK firefighters. It's been done to death on here, I am one who was on strike, we were shafted by the government and they used you to help break the strike, just like the Police were used against the miners. Do you think this government give a s*** about soldiers, when they decide to shaft you lot yet again what will you do about it? Bend over and take it again? Sometimes enough has to be enough. BTW, take a look at the pay and conditions (and pension) of the NYFD compared to firemen in the UK. Not a bad job if you want it.
If you had read the many threads on this board, you'd already know that the forces are fully aware the government doesn't give a damn. However, the forces are in the unenviable position of being unable to go on strike to make a point. I think you'll find what really incensed people against firefighters is not that you went on strike - it was your timing. Right before the forces were about to deploy to Iraq? Nice. Make life extra hard for the PBI.
 
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What a confused bunch of bollicks

Get back on track, warrior creed, buddie buddie, brotherhood stuff is all very american.

Not critisicing it full stop but its all a bit "Cheerleader" and back slapping innit

Not taking anything away from the NYFD or this seal bloke either, but...........

If toms decided to swap TRF wwith AA men or London ambulance geezers they would soon be shown the error of their ways

Badges........an american thing

Whatever

Ask Jack Daniels about british firemen, he'll tell you how rubbish they are lol
 
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thegimp said:
What a confused bunch of bollicks

Get back on track, warrior creed, buddie buddie, brotherhood stuff is all very american.

Not critisicing it full stop but its all a bit "Cheerleader" and back slapping innit

Not taking anything away from the NYFD or this seal bloke either, but...........

If toms decided to swap TRF wwith AA men or London ambulance geezers they would soon be shown the error of their ways

Badges........an american thing

Whatever

Ask Jack Daniels about british firemen, he'll tell you how rubbish they are lol
The Gimp ain't kidding either.
 
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The_Goon. The government didn't have to send you guys in to cover for the strike, they chose to. Just as on 3 occasions since Freco in 2004 they have chosen not to provide army cover for striking firefighters. The most recent being last year when Merseyside were on strike for 26 days. No army cover at all. It was they that sent you in for strike cover when you should have been preparing for the war they were also choosing to send you on. I have the greatest respect for all the services and think you are doing a great job in Iraq and Afganistan, depite the fact that I don't agree with the politics of why you are there. I support you 100%. For those that have left the Army and joined Civvy street you will know that sometimes employers push things in a certain direction to achieve the results they want. Firefighters had all their buttons pushed in 2003/4 and we walked right into it. Things have never been the same since and our terms and conditions now are far worst than they were 20 years ago. Our own fault for not seeing the bigger picture. The goverment wanted to be seen to be strong against a union and we bent over for them. Same with the miners and the same when Maggie needed the Falklands fight. We are lucky that we can tell them to feck off now and again, a luxury I know you don't have, however believe me, no firefighters wanted to have you guys on the street when you were getting ready for Iraq. A large number of firefighters are ex-forces and know the score. We didn't take that strike action lightly. Apologies to all of you that had to come in and cover during Fresco, but sometimes, shit happens.
 
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