Bombay rocked by deadly shootings 172 killed

#1
Mumbai rocked by deadly shootings

Gunmen have opened fire at a number of sites in the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay), killing at least 16 people and injuring others, local reports say.
Police said the shootings appeared to be terrorist attacks.

Gunmen opened fire in at least seven sites, including a train station, two five-star hotels, a hospital and a restaurant popular with tourists.
There has been a wave of bombings in Indian cities in recent months which has left scores of people dead.

Most of the attacks have been blamed on Muslim militants, although police have also arrested suspected Hindu extremists.

At least two blasts, suspected to be grenade attacks, were reported alongside Wednesday's shootings.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7751160.stm

Fox News mentions unconfirmed reports of 14 westerners held hostages and up to 25 people killed in the different attacks

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457885,00.html

CNN mentions 18 killed according to CNN-IBN and "ongoing gun battles"

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/india.attacks/index.html
 
#2
Latest "score" was 25 dead, according to Channel 4 News...unconfirmed statements that the attackers were searching out victims with British or American passports...

Pakistani AQ/Taliban?
 
#3
According to an Indian source it's now 80 killed and 250 wounded....



Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 250 injured

MUMBAI: Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinate serial explosions and indiscriminate firing rocked

eight areas across Mumbai including the crowded CST railway station, two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj. ( Watch )

At least 80 people were dead and 250 injured in the terror attacks, hospital sources said.

Two terrorists were still inside the Oberoi Hotel and commando operation was on.

Terrorists hijacked white police jeep near Metro cinema in South Mumbai .

Firing was also reported near Maharashtra state assembly building in South Mumbai.

Armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades, a couple of terrorists entered the passenger hall of CST and opened fire and threw grenades, Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma said.

The terror strike which began at 10:33 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), claimed 10 lives in the premises of the station alone, police said.

Three persons were killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number were gunned down at Taj Hotel. The victims in the hotel were its employees.

The lobby of the Oberoi hotel was on fire and the hotel evacuated, eyewitnesses said.

Maharashtra DGP A N Roy said tonight's attack in "at least seven places" is a "terror strike."

Sharma said 30 persons were injured in the CST incident. Commandoes were rushed to the CST which wore a deserted look and train services suspended.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Terrorists_strike_Mumbai_80_dead_250_hurt/articleshow/3761410.cms
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
#4
The name for this place in the English language is Bombay. Just as Munich, Copenhagen, Lisbon etc are English words for places called different names by their locals. So also Canton, Peking etc.
 
#5
Last report on C4 was that the bad guys had taken hostages at the hotel...

The day before Thanksgiving - coincidence?
 
#6
Werewolf said:
Last report on C4 was that the bad guys had taken hostages at the hotel...

The day before Thanksgiving - coincidence?
It's probably Lashkar-e-Taiba kicking off again. They set off a series of bombs just before I visited Mumbai in 2003 with my ship.

Edit-I've just seen that they attacked the Taj Mahal Hotel-that was the duty watch bar for RN Ships whenever they were alongside there in the past.
 
#7
Seems the Indian government have been accused of being 'weak on terror' (not sure of the political leaning of the Indian Express though-found it on Yahoo News India):

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/terror-and-the-weak-state/380267/

The least our political leaders can do is not make unfeeling, tasteless remarks after a terrorist attack. Would they like it if their children or grandchildren were blown to bits while buying Diwali sweets and we made the sort of remarks they make every time bombs go off in some city? After the bombs that killed more than 70 people in Guwahati last week this is what our leaders said. The President: "There is no place for violence in our society."

So, why is there so much of it? The Prime Minister: "I strongly condemn the serial blasts." Does he know anyone who does not condemn them? His Home Minister: "These are cowardly acts perpetrated by the elements which do not want peace."

How perceptive. The stupidest, most apolitical Indians have worked out that the men who plant bombs in the bazaars of our cities do not want peace. What they cannot understand is why we have a government that is powerless in the face of what it itself acknowledges is a proxy war. In the past six months bombs have gone off in Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Delhi and Guwahati. In the past four years there have been more people killed in terrorist attacks in India than in any country other than Iraq. Would the Prime Minister like to tell us why his government has been unable to defend us against terrorists who announce on every jihad website that their objective is to Islamise India?

Let me make it clear here that I do not think that our opposition parties have shown themselves to be any better at understanding or dealing with the problem. From the likes of Messrs L.K. Advani and Prakash Karat we hear nothing that indicates that they have national interest rather than their own petty political interests at heart. If this is a war against the idea of India, then it is time for our political leaders to put the country above politics. This has not happened. Nor was Advani's record as Home Minister anything to be proud of.

This does not diminish the gravity of the Prime Minister's failure to understand the threat to India's security. Instead of condemning terrorism, what we want to know is what steps he has taken to prevent another Indian city being bombed? Do we have a national counter-terrorism unit yet? What steps have been taken to modernise police weapons and training? Do we have evidence that Pakistan or Bangladesh are involved in funding the terrorist groups that operate in India? If we do, what are we doing about this? Can we have details of terrorism cases that have been conclusively solved? The questions are too many to list here and in any case the Prime Minister never deigns to answer them. He just smiles and waits for public anger to die down.

There are signs that it is not going to die as easily as in the past. In Guwahati, enraged people attacked a police station last week. How long will it be before others start taking the law into their hands? As you read this on the anniversary of the Sikh massacres that followed the assassination of Indira Gandhi, it is important to remember that this was the first instance in which an Indian Government encouraged the police to desist from performing its fundamental duty of protecting innocent people. There are reports in which eyewitnesses have testified to this. As someone who wandered the streets of Delhi on those three terrible days in which ordinary people turned into killers knowing that nobody would stop them, may I say that never before or since have I seen the police more derelict or the state more complicit in violence.

We are paying for it today. Once the police are corrupted by politicians, it is very hard to stop the slide. In all our states we are fighting terrorism with policemen who not only lack the weapons or intelligence systems to deal with modern terrorism but who also lack the will. They are confused by the mixed signals they get from our political leaders. We must not target a community, they say, without realising that they do this by these very words. Why do they not say this when Hindu terrorists are caught? Only fools and fanatics would suggest that all Muslims are terrorists. But, equally we must acknowledge that nearly every act of terrorism on Indian soil in recent years has been by Muslims who are fighting a jihad against India. The police must target them but will do it only when they are backed by unwavering political will.
 
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It'll be touristy places in Goa next, the police there are a joke, more interested in bribery than policing. I've been on holiday there a few times, the locals (Goans) are decent people, but there are a lot of immigrants from other Indian states, and thats where the trouble lies.

I will be amazed if something doesn't kick-off there during the present tourist season.
 
#9
The last round of bomb blasts was blamed on Pak-based Islamists but intriguingly the Indian security forces arrested an Indian army colonel, a Hindu, who apparently confessed to being behind those attacks.

fantassin said:
Two terrorists were still inside the Oberoi Hotel and commando operation was on.
Great! That lot will probably waste more civvies than the terrorists!
 
#10
According to Sky, India's anti-terrorism chief has himself been killed, bugger! :oops:

This is major, will no doubt be portrayed as India's 9/11.

There may be trouble ahead!
 
#12
Taz_786 said:
According to Sky, India's anti-terrorism chief has himself been killed, bugger! :oops:

This is major, will no doubt be portrayed as India's 9/11.

There may be trouble ahead![/quote]

Especially if it can be linked to Pakistan... 8O
 
#14
Taz_786 said:
According to Sky, India's anti-terrorism chief has himself been killed, bugger! :oops:

This is major, will no doubt be portrayed as India's 9/11.

There may be trouble ahead!
...and you'd be an expert on terrorism, what with your contacts/friends in the muslim terrorist organisations. Sounds like the work of your lot, killing unarmed civilians....
 
#15
Taz_786 said:
The last round of bomb blasts was blamed on Pak-based Islamists but intriguingly the Indian security forces arrested an Indian army colonel, a Hindu, who apparently confessed to being behind those attacks.

fantassin said:
Two terrorists were still inside the Oberoi Hotel and commando operation was on.
Great! That lot will probably waste more civvies than the terrorists!
The Deccan Mujahadeen (sounds like a bunch of Hindus :roll: ) are now claiming responsibility. That's very big and clever of them. Clearly AFG's getting a bit hot for these vermin.
 
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seaweed said:
The name for this place in the English language is Bombay. Just as Munich, Copenhagen, Lisbon etc are English words for places called different names by their locals. So also Canton, Peking etc.
Not so. Bombay, Canton and Peking are transliterations of the way the locals used to pronounce the names when Europeans first turned up. Since westerners were fucked off from running the places, the prevailing language has been standardised across the nation with the slightly different pronunciation of the standard form becoming the norm.

Besides, it's their country so they can call it whatever they want. They were there first, after all.
 
#17
smartascarrots said:
seaweed said:
The name for this place in the English language is Bombay. Just as Munich, Copenhagen, Lisbon etc are English words for places called different names by their locals. So also Canton, Peking etc.
Not so. Bombay, Canton and Peking are transliterations of the way the locals used to pronounce the names when Europeans first turned up. Since westerners were fucked off from running the places, the prevailing language has been standardised across the nation with the slightly different pronunciation of the standard form becoming the norm.

Besides, it's their country so they can call it whatever they want. They were there first, after all.
So why do we call the Russian capital Moscow not Moskva???

Odo
 
#18
Apparently all members of 49 PARA have just been called back into their top-secret-hideout

Whisper " who cares....."
 

Goatman

ADC
Book Reviewer
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Odo_de_StAmand said:
smartascarrots said:
seaweed said:
The name for this place in the English language is Bombay. Just as Munich, Copenhagen, Lisbon etc are English words for places called different names by their locals. So also Canton, Peking etc.
Not so. Bombay, Canton and Peking are transliterations of the way the locals used to pronounce the names when Europeans first turned up. Since westerners were fucked off from running the places, the prevailing language has been standardised across the nation with the slightly different pronunciation of the standard form becoming the norm.

Besides, it's their country so they can call it whatever they want. They were there first, after all.
So why do we call the Russian capital Moscow not Moskva???

Odo
Damn straight - who's off to ROMA for their Hols then? Or flying to Torino for the opera? Or Zum Munchen for the Christmas Markt or nach Koln to visit the cathedral?

It's just PC hypersensitivity to an imagined slight....what was Brazzaville called before Europeans arrived? JUNGLE.

China is a different story - Pin Lin transliteration - fair one. Bye bye Tsingtao.Chunking and Shantung.

Sick and tired of the guilt game played by 'emerging ' nations .......Chennai, Mumbai, Yangon......what a crock.

Long live Cox's Bazaar,Fort Hertz and Maymyo - and STOP pandering to them, dangit.

(harrumph......rustles Torygraph .......Bearer! another chota-peg, jaldi !)


Lee Shaver
 
#20
It's trivial when set against the loss of life, but I'm with Seaweed and Odo on this one - Bombay was always so called, in this country at least, until a few years ago, so why should we change the name just because the Indians do? Of course they can call their own cities anything they like, but that doesn't mean we have to follow suit - unless, that is, "we" are members of the spineless PC 'meeja', who instinctively kowtow to any non-white ex-colonial country in anything they do, think or say. So it's Mumbai now, is it? And Beijing? And Myanmar? Then why not Roma, Napoli, Firenze, Wien, Warszawa, Praha, Beograd, Lisboa, Den Haag, etc. etc? Why does Paris rhyme with Harris instead of with Marie? How many people ask for Beijing Duck in Chinese restaurants? (Or Mumbai duck, for that matter.) And why isn't it a criminal offence (it soon will be, no doubt) to call today's Gestapo HQ something other than Bruxelles?

P.S. Have just seen that Goatman beat me to it, but two rights don't make a wrong!
 

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