Bomb Disposal

#1
Just been reading an article on Sky news, and saw this comment

"if they remved oxgen from the bomb, could it still go off? If not, then perhaps they could use hilium in an enclosed container over the bomb to displace the oxygen around bomb? If it does produce own oxygen, then would the bomb still ignite at super cool temperature? if no, then spray bomb with liquid nitrogen from heaily armoured vehicle before bomb disposal work on it. if bomb heats up again, they could retreat the bomb.

would spraying the bomb with liquid nitrogen damage any ignition mechanism anyway? especially if it was a electronic device?


could they not use EMP to tigger bomb at a safe distance?


there must be an answer!"

Being in the Navy and working on aircraft I have no knowledge of such matters, but is any of this possible?

reference: Bomb Disposal comment
 
#2
You want people to comment on the bone comments on another website that appears to attract bone commentators?

If it were that easy, don't you think someone might have just worked that out a while ago??
 
#3
Problems with this approach:

1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
2. There's O2 in everything
3. Helium is extremely inflammable
4. EMP - wtf?
 
#6
Ursus.Maritimus said:
Problems with this approach:

1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
2. There's O2 in everything
3. Helium is extremely inflammable
4. EMP - wtf?
Where the feck did you learn chemistry?
 
#8
Ursus.Maritimus said:
Problems with this approach:

1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
2. There's O2 in everything
3. Helium is extremely inflammable
4. EMP - wtf?
1. Yes
2. No there isn't! Where is the O2 in Sodium Chloride.
3. That would be the inert gas helium! The one that finds it hard to react with anything :twisted: That helium.
4. Electro Magnetic Phenomena.

2/10 - see me behind the bike sheds Einstein!
 
#9
Werewolf said:
Dunservin said:
I preferred using a teleporter.

P.S. Didn't Sidney get the idea for Vulcan from Star Trek?
Trek Walt! :D

Everyone knows EOD are about to be issued with the Phaser A1. 8)
Phaser

PHASed Energy Rectification. :(

Note to self

1. Girlfriend - get one.

2. The outdoors - go there :twisted:
 
#10
rickshaw-major said:
Ursus.Maritimus said:
Problems with this approach:

1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
2. There's O2 in everything
3. Helium is extremely inflammable
4. EMP - wtf?
1. Yes
2. No there isn't! Where is the O2 in Sodium Chloride.
3. That would be the inert gas helium! The one that finds it hard to react with anything :twisted: That helium.
4. Electro Magnetic Phenomena.

2/10 - see me behind the bike sheds Einstein!
Err shouldn't that be Electro Magnetic Pulse......
 
#11
rickshaw-major said:
Werewolf said:
Dunservin said:
I preferred using a teleporter.

P.S. Didn't Sidney get the idea for Vulcan from Star Trek?
Trek Walt! :D

Everyone knows EOD are about to be issued with the Phaser A1. 8)
Phaser

PHASed Energy Rectification. :(

Note to self

1. Girlfriend - get one.

2. The outdoors - go there :twisted:
The Royal Regiment of Scotland are also being issued the new weapons. But the Phaser settings have been changed from 'Stun' or 'Kill' to 'Malkie the b@stards!' :twisted:
 
#12
jagman said:
rickshaw-major said:
Ursus.Maritimus said:
Problems with this approach:

1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
2. There's O2 in everything
3. Helium is extremely inflammable
4. EMP - wtf?
1. Yes
2. No there isn't! Where is the O2 in Sodium Chloride.
3. That would be the inert gas helium! The one that finds it hard to react with anything :twisted: That helium.
4. Electro Magnetic Phenomena.

2/10 - see me behind the bike sheds Einstein!
Err shouldn't that be Electro Magnetic Pulse......
No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
 
#13
rickshaw-major said:
jagman said:
rickshaw-major said:
Ursus.Maritimus said:
Problems with this approach:

1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
2. There's O2 in everything
3. Helium is extremely inflammable
4. EMP - wtf?
1. Yes
2. No there isn't! Where is the O2 in Sodium Chloride.
3. That would be the inert gas helium! The one that finds it hard to react with anything :twisted: That helium.
4. Electro Magnetic Phenomena.

2/10 - see me behind the bike sheds Einstein!
Err shouldn't that be Electro Magnetic Pulse......
No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
In which case I shall leave the point there....... :lol:
 

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#14
rickshaw-major said:
No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
Are you using made up words?
 
#15
Bouillabaisse said:
rickshaw-major said:
No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
Are you using made up words?
No. Weaponized mean to adapt for use as a weapon of war e.g. anthrax spores can be weaponized, cluster sub-munitions need to be loaded, assembled and packed (LAP) before they can be deployed, used and functioned as intended.

If you mean my use of the z as opposed to the s then that is purely a matter of convention and the fact that I am using a Serbian Cyrillic keyboard.

I am however using big words as its science.
 
#17
flynavy said:
Just been reading an article on Sky news, and saw this comment

"if they remved oxgen from the bomb, could it still go off? If not, then perhaps they could use hilium in an enclosed container over the bomb to displace the oxygen around bomb? If it does produce own oxygen, then would the bomb still ignite at super cool temperature? if no, then spray bomb with liquid nitrogen from heaily armoured vehicle before bomb disposal work on it. if bomb heats up again, they could retreat the bomb.

would spraying the bomb with liquid nitrogen damage any ignition mechanism anyway? especially if it was a electronic device?

My bold... errmm... didnt they try this in Lethal Weapon 1 with highly amusing results... ???
 
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#19
Utter cock - how does one spray liquid nitrogen at a buried bomb? Oh, and even if you could do it, it is an unworkable solution (how much liquid nitrogen do you need, who carries it, how do you keep it liquid etc etc etc).

It would not slow down the detonation of the 'plastique' it would work by rendering the battery flat!
 
#20
Liquid nitrogen was first used to help defuse German bombs in the second world war.

Liquid nitrogen is quite easy to place on a bomb. as being a liquid you pour it on. but it would have no effect on the explosive charge itself but electrical or mechanical components would be affected.

Most consumer grade electronic components only work down to 0 celcius.

higher grade electornics work to -45 or -80 but again both would be redered inoperable by the application of liquid nitrogen.

Bad news is you have to find the control circuity to apply the Liquid nitrogen.
 

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