BoJo bans booze on underground RMT unhappy about it.

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Don't they always
 
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It's because the RMT drivers are too scared to travel on the underground whilst sober methinks.

Sack them all and get immigrants to drive the trains, isn't that what new labour socialism is all about?
 

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The_Cad said:
It's because the RMT drivers are too scared to travel on the underground whilst sober methinks.

Sack them all and get immigrants to drive the trains, isn't that what new labour socialism is all about?
If they only recruited Islamic fundamentalists, they wouldn't need to worry about them being drunk. Good call, Nazi boy - you may be onto something there...
 
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Mr Crow said: "We are in favour of any measure that will make our members' lives safer and curb anti-social behaviour, but it appears that this really hasn't been thought through very well and could well make matters worse.

"We are being told that it will be our members who will have to approach people drinking and ask them to stop - but the Mayor hasn't asked us what we think. Violence against our members is already a major problem, particularly from people who have been drinking.

"Perhaps the Mayor will come ... to show us how it should be done, and maybe tell a crowd of Liverpool supporters that they can't drink on the train?"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-bans-alcohol-on-buses-and-tube-822462.html

His quote has been edited by me because I do not want to lower the tone.

PS: Did Mr Crow just insinuate that all scousers are trouble making drunkards?
 
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Scabster_Mooch said:
Mr Crow said: "We are in favour of any measure that will make our members' lives safer and curb anti-social behaviour, but it appears that this really hasn't been thought through very well and could well make matters worse.

"We are being told that it will be our members who will have to approach people drinking and ask them to stop - but the Mayor hasn't asked us what we think. Violence against our members is already a major problem, particularly from people who have been drinking.

"Perhaps the Mayor will come ... to show us how it should be done, and maybe tell a crowd of Liverpool supporters that they can't drink on the train?"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-bans-alcohol-on-buses-and-tube-822462.html

His quote has been edited by me because I do not want to lower the tone.

Errr...I'm sure I've heard of some chaps in Uniform who go on Trains and deal with nasty law breakers.....what are they called?
 
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Errm didn't they used to be Police officers once? You know before they became government administrators and tax raisers.
 
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cpunk said:
The_Cad said:
It's because the RMT drivers are too scared to travel on the underground whilst sober methinks.

Sack them all and get immigrants to drive the trains, isn't that what new labour socialism is all about?
If they only recruited Islamic fundamentalists, they wouldn't need to worry about them being drunk. Good call, Nazi boy - you may be onto something there...
Nazi Moi? Wind up merchant, sexually deviant, sick and twisted but never a Nazi..

I'm more Churchill than Hitler.... Oh Yes!

Londons a sh*t hole anyway, who cares if the layabouts strike..

I'm happy up here in real England, Free England!

Of course if you want me to shoot the strikers I am willing to do so on the condition that Livingstone is among them.

:D
 
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Yea. That was my first thought too. OTOH, it is plausible that the police will not be able/be bothered to deal with mundane stuff like this, and in any case, the first person to deal with these drunks will be staff.

That said, I think his concerns should be listened to but ultimately disregarded as petty whinging.

Ooh and whenever someone from the RMT speaks, I am reminded of the London Underground Song --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYVJSOFZxDE
 
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Mr Johnson will no doubt have put the second part of his policy in train (ah-hah-ha-ha...light commissioned ranks only laughter); to whit a hefty police presence on the Underground. If they can shoot a few Brazilian tradesmen, a full scale pogrom of drunken scouse fotball supporters ought to be no problem...

As for Mr Crow and his members, while I feel sorry for them in their ongoing struggle for resepect from London's unwashed, they really only have themselves to blame. This situation vis a vis drunks and other assorted crims on the Underground didn't just crop up after midnight on Saturday. If they had chucked their weight around when it was looming, then it wouldn't be a huge issue now. frankly I am reminded of the old liberal cadence, "If not now, when? If not here, where? If not you who?"

Remember what we were all educated into at an early age - can't means won't and won't means...the guard room. Mayor J is merely advising one of his many teams of minions to "stand by" for an attempt at change. Perhaps Mr Crow could go on a fact finding trip to NY and see how much use it was for thier trolleymen to drag their heels??
 
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I'm all for it, myself. This has been coming for ages now, I'm glad Boris has got the balls to start upsetting people. Long may it continue!
 
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Scabster_Mooch said:
Yea. That was my first thought too. OTOH, it is plausible that the police will not be able/be bothered to deal with mundane stuff like this, and in any case, the first person to deal with these drunks will be staff.

That said, I think his concerns should be listened to but ultimately disregarded as petty whinging.

Ooh and whenever someone from the RMT speaks, I am reminded of the London Underground Song --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYVJSOFZxDE
But isn't this why the British Transport Police actually exist, to police transport?

Love the song. :D
 
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yes but 12 coppers a shift is hardly going to stop to drinkers on the tube or drunks is it?
 

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Ord_Sgt said:
But isn't this why the British Transport Police actually exist, to police transport?
That was my first thought. I suspect big bad Bob Crowe is just looking for an opportunity to prove his Socialist credentials by picking a fight with a Tory.
 
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bit of both not a boris fan obviously
SO you want us to take booze off the great British public who we already no are such a nice reasonable bunch when they have had a few? :roll:
can we have tasers and back up then boris ?
theres the btp
oh yeah the guys we see once a shift cheers for that :evil:
 
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12 coppers in penny packets, no. Taking a leaf from the Parisian or NY book and sending out "counter-steamer" teams...oh you wouldn't believe the effectiveness on a single line at peak time. Backed up above ground by specialist custody teams...it works for footie hooligans which is a once a weeker. so why not do it for ordinary routine crime...
 
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skivinstudent.lol said:
Mr crow is obviously unaware that the train before a match is always a dry train. oh dear
BJ is on about the Underground...

Will make travelling from the Varsity match, Army & Navy etc rather interesting. Picture the tannoy at Richmond station:

"Will the six hundred drunk Sappers at platform two put down their cans of lager or they will face an on-the-spot fine"

Look out, its a fat dike PSCO...

Nice one, BJ.
 
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I thought it was already illegal to drink in public. Regardless, me and my mates still do it quite alot. Probably won't stop either, not exactly causing any trouble whatsoever so less of a chance of getting nicked.

There are idiots who need to be banned from doing shit. Stuff like this never gets enforced anyway. You know, I hardly, hardly even see anyone making sure nothing bad goes on in tubes. Let alone someone bothered to make sure someone who is drinking alcohol (who isn't causing disruption) ends up nicked.
 
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Some rubbish was spouted about the underground smoking ban although in the wake of the Kings Cross fire all the union did was try to use it as a negotiating tool.

Yes, they are pushing for a fight. By some miracle impending underground strikes were called off before the elections for mayor. Ken Livingstone supposedly got his election funding from the Labour party (you know, the skint one) but seems clear he was being funded in part by unions. Clear conflict oof interest

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3635748.ece
 

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