Natch.I deleted the post as soon as i saw your acknowledgement old boy. You are quick on trigger today.
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out though. Will history repeat itself and the MAX fade from public consciousness and press interest or will there be lasting implications?
The airlines seem to be betting on the former.
Yes, you’d think so (“you” generic rather than “you“personally). But again history shows otherwise:The lasting implication is going to be that any future incidents involving whatever ‘Max’ is called always going be gleefully flagged by the world wide Daily Mail equivalents as being the 'ill fated aeroplane formerly known as 'Max'.
Like all things, It will only be news while there is a story to be had.
...And that is something Boeing have brought upon themselves.
The standout exception that proves the rule is the Comet.
The Comet never recovered from a series of crashes resulting from in flight break up of the airframe. The cause was eventually identified as metal fatigue around the square cut corners of cabin windows which is why all cabin windows now have radius cut corners. Aviation is tragically littered, figuratively and literally with bits of broken aircraft that have led to a better understanding of an essentially extremely hostile operating environment.
The Comet didn’t recover not because it was a damaged brand, it didn’t recover because the Americans, who’d been roundly defeated in the race to develop truly ground breaking aviation technology in passenger transport to that point, came up with something genuinely better in the form of the 707.
That was despite the staggering naivety of successive post war British governments who’d signed up to a deal to share technology with the yanks and couldn’t figure out why the Americans were getting it cracked whilst no information on how seemed to be flowing East from the US. In the supreme irony, this frankly criminal state of affairs was finally ended largely at the instigation of the left winger Tony Benn in the 60s. The rest as they say, is history.
Just after WW2, air travel boomed. The aircraft used were mainly based on mil designs used during the war with a few upgrades and new ideas. That said, there are very few crews alive today who would be able to cope with the inherent idiosyncracies and flaws in those designs. Not too much talk around though of how dangerous things were back then. Crews just got on with the job and dealt with things as best they could, sometimes with fatal results.
Point is, things will always improve if we're lucky. Trying to remove the pilot from things using automation is probably not the best way to do that, but I admit to having a vested interest, as does @Toastie with whom I agree as to the naming of air crash incidents. Hopefully things will get better with more insight into error trapping, but bean counters will always look for a cheaper route, be that hiring less experienced and younger crews, or fast tracking training with MPL holders who are not prepared for curve balls. In my opinion, it's too late to go back and dig around for experienced types who know how to fly without automation. That ship has sailed and the infestation of tech dependent youngsters now inhabiting flight decks will require careful monitoring and mentoring if future mishaps are to be avoided.
Manufacturers try to do away with defects in their systems, but those curve balls lurk in the shadows and unforeseen shit has a habit of happening. Dealing with it is where it gets tricky.
It’s not all gloom though as a conversation this week would indicate.
I‘m in the process of writing a 2 day classroom course that gets guys from completing the pure technical / handling aspects of the Type Rating Course to the point where they’re ready to start Line Training i.e. operating rather than just flying the jet, in North Atlantic airspace under ETOPS and in the badlands of the Middle and Far East.
One slide I included covered some items regarding Take Off Performance that is automatically done by the On Board Performance Tool. My supervising manager asked me why I‘d done this as the system is designed to do it for us. I replied that I was concerned that knowledge of what the system was doing was important so they could spot errors and then dug out an obscure little trap question that he duly got wrong. To his great credit he immediately suggested I not only not remove the slide in question, I add more on that theme.
To be fair, all my Training Management are decent people who are pushing this increasingly which has upset some who‘ve been found out and the money men because the course has gone from 1 day to 2.
Nope. Those with large share holdings should be forced to sign a register. Once a year there’d be a lottery and two of the handful of pilots who die prematurely annually following terminal illness should be offered the opportunity to crash an old, poorly maintained airframe loaded with the lottery winners.Bean counters should be savagely beaten by real humans every Monday morning as a matter of principle, just to remind them who actually flies on their aircraft and pays their salaries.
Bit of a problem there, I don’t need a dictionary to find out the definitions of integrity or common sense and bothering to get some facts before pontificating.A career in politics awaits