Blunkett machine-gun prisoners claim

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A hysterical David Blunkett told the prison service to call in the army and "machine gun" inmates in order to regain control of a riot-torn prison, the former director general of the prison service, Martin Narey, claims today.
In a response to the former home secretary's memoirs, The Blunkett Tapes, Mr Narey said that Mr Blunkett "shrieked" down the phone to him that he did not care about the possible loss of life among staff or prisoners during efforts to retake Lincoln jail, which had been taken over by rioting inmates in October 2002.

Mr Narey said that he told Mr Blunkett that he would take the prison back as quickly as possible, but would not risk staff or prisoners' lives. "He shrieked at me that he didn't care about lives, told me to call in the army and 'machine gun' prisoners and, still shrieking, again ordered me to take the prison back immediately. I refused. David hung up."

Mr Narey told the Times that the way Mr Blunkett behaved during the riot convinced him that he was not up to job of being home secretary.


Article in full

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,1924226,00.html

and this is the tw*t who was demanding that the Good General be sacked for speaking 'unconstitutionally'
 
#2
Mr Blunkett has won few friends in government for the tone and timing of the diaries - motivated, it is said, by a need to replenish the funds he created for his three adult children
What more need to be said?
 
#3
I was brought/dragged up in a strong Labour voting area. The tale that in the National Strike in the 20s Churchill wanted to turn the troops out on the Welsh Minners was an off told tale.
I still hear it occasional on this board.
john
Labour will always go to the extreames for it knows That Rent a Mob will not turn out.
 

Cutaway

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#4
Mr Blunkett's recollection in his diaries, published today, is very different. Faced with a riot at Lincoln which he feared might replicate the humiliation of Margaret Thatcher's last home secretary, David Waddington, when Strangeways prison in Manchester was seized by inmates, Mr Blunkett said there must be "no dithering"
Hmmm, a politician being a little light with the truth ? Surely not !

It seems he's determined to prove the point I made about him over here.

I wonder how he got the slot reading his diaries on Radio 4, I'd have thought they were better suited to Jackanory.
 
#5
machine gunning prisoners.... Didn't realise anyone in the labour party had any common sense! Mind you, due to budgetary reasons we would have to bayonet them as we can't afford the rounds!!
 
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Warrior_Poet said:
machine gunning prisoners.... Didn't realise anyone in the labour party had any common sense! Mind you, due to budgetary reasons we would have to bayonet them as we can't afford the rounds!!
Ah go boil your head, you ijit.

More evidence, as if we needed it, that Blunkett and WP are unbalanced t0ssers.
 

chimera

LE
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#8
And this was the man who had the temerity to criticise our CGS....

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/p=894837.html#894837

Clearly unfit for any role in public life....and yet constituionally (as he is quick to remind us) it is only people like HIM who has the right to comment publically and make decisions about our soldiers serving and dying in foreign lands..
 
#9
What's the problem!? Would cut down on number of prisoners, the soldiers involved could subsequently be tried for murder and save on pension payments.

Think Mr Blunkett is a man of rare vision and insight...........................

I'll get my coat!
 
#10
There's only one establishment which the army needs to enter with machine guns blazing.

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"Room Clear!"
"Make way for Her Majesty lads!"
"Thank you gentlemen.....I see the birds have flown"
"No Ma'am, Blair and Brown are hiding under the Table, Blair seems to be using the dispatch box as some sort of helmet"
"Ah yes. Do carry on..."
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#11
Cordon, Cordon, this is Alpha Control. Receiving? Over."

"Go ahead Alpha Control"

"Allow the fire engine and two ambulances through the cordon, over."

"All Received Alpha Control; Cordon out."

That's what we need more of in this Country [based on real events in 1980] not Human Fcuking Rights!
 
#12
RTFQ, a truly visceral pictoral story!

Welldone that man! :lol:
 

Cutaway

LE
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mukhabarat2003 said:
Cordon, Cordon, this is Alpha Control. Receiving? Over."

"Go ahead Alpha Control"

"Allow the fire engine and two ambulances through the cordon, over."

"All Received Alpha Control; Cordon out."

That's what we need more of in this Country [based on real events in 1980] not Human Fcuking Rights!
Alternatively:

"Received Alpha Control. No fire engine enroute as the bastards are on strike again. Roger so far ?"

"Roger Cordon"

"Nearest Green Goddess scrambled. ETA tomorrow 1200 hrs. Over."

"Oh Bollocks..."
 
#14
Sadly, the repeal of the Riot Act in 1973 removed the Home Secretary's power to do what Blunkett suggested.

The Riot Act was an awsome tool - if a chief constable was unable to keep order on his patch he was obliged to call in the army to restore order. To invoke the law, the magistrates had to read the proclamation contained in the Act aloud to the mob (12 or more persons) thus:

"Our sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the act made in the first year of King George, for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God save the King."

If the request was ignored and mob had not dispered within an hour the army could be given permission to open fire. The act was used during the Police strike of 1919 and the army shot dead a looter in Liverpool (where else?).
 
#16
From the Guardian article

"He shrieked at me that he didn't care about lives, told me to call in the army and 'machine gun' prisoners and, still shrieking, again ordered me to take the prison back immediately.
I'm reminded of the scene in 'Downfall' where Hitler has one of his better tantrums after being told Steiner hasn't launched the counterattack.
 
#17
I'd have been a whole lot happier reading the headline "prisoners 'machine-gun Blunkett' claim".

Oh well, I can dream I suppose.
 
#18
It appears that everone is confusing the army that Blunkett and all his cronies refer to with the British Army with which we are all associated in someway or another.

His army is the mythical one which politicians, journalists and anyone else with a chip on their shoulders can rely on. That one has unlimited manpower, has unlimited resourses and can be used for any purpose anywhere in the world at a moments notice and can act with impunity.

For some strange reason all civilians who have not been within a mile of a uniform are experts in all aspects of this military organisation including the fact that these soldiers don't pay for housing, get free food, fags, booze and petrol but they have to pay a fiver for a car. for some reason this army is always perceived to wear battledress and refer to each other as 'orrible little men.

Like King Arthur and his Knights this army waits for the snap of a journalist's or politician's fingers to settle the argument or empty the dustbins.

So don't worry, its not you they are talking about .... or is it?
 
#19
Cutaway said:
mukhabarat2003 said:
Cordon, Cordon, this is Alpha Control. Receiving? Over."

"Go ahead Alpha Control"

"Allow the fire engine and two ambulances through the cordon, over."

"All Received Alpha Control; Cordon out."

That's what we need more of in this Country [based on real events in 1980] not Human Fcuking Rights!
Alternatively:

"Received Alpha Control. No fire engine enroute as the bastards are on strike again. Roger so far ?"

"Roger Cordon"

"Nearest Green Goddess scrambled. ETA tomorrow 1200 hrs. Over."

"Oh Bollocks..."
Excellent Cutaway!

The army was put on standby [never seen so much excitment in Caterham Barracks] when the original Brixton Riot turned crook.

Then God stuck his nose in and unleashed the world's best policeman - it p!ssed with rain.

Nice to know that at the time LFS refused to turn their hoses on the rioters at the request of, and for, the defence of their colleagues in blue.

Should have let the Gurkhas out for a little Friday night fun.............

"Lima Control can I have some back-up in Electric Avenue junc Atlantic Road? Lima Delta 51 over."

"Lima Delta 51 fall back to Brixton Road and await reinforcements, GT over."

"GT, GT from LD51, I will not fall back; we have worked hard to take this back and have three cas - send reinforcments to junction Atlantic avenue, LD51 out!"

"LD51 LD51 from GT, all received."
 
#20
Seadog said:
From the Guardian article

"He shrieked at me that he didn't care about lives, told me to call in the army and 'machine gun' prisoners and, still shrieking, again ordered me to take the prison back immediately.
I'm reminded of the scene in 'Downfall' where Hitler has one of his better tantrums after being told Steiner hasn't launched the counterattack.
Even with his promotion, I think even Sgt. Steiner would have struggled to relieve Berlin..
 

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