Blunkett calls for Police Chief dismissal

#1
Police chief sacking call sets precedent

Unlike other reports into tragedies, disasters and cock-ups, however, Sir Michael concluded the failures did not rest solely with systems, procedures and institutions.

He said there were "very serious failings" in Humberside's senior management and singled out Chief Constable David Westwood for criticism.

Sir Michael said Mr Westwood must take "personal as well as corporate responsibility" for the failings.

This is as far as Sir Michael would go - he would not be drawn on whether Mr Westwood should step down - but the damage had been done.

In the light of the criticism, Mr Westwood was advised to consider his position but refused to do so.


Instead, the Home Secretary, David Blunkett, has taken the unprecedented step of ordering his suspension, though it has to be ratified by Humberside Police Authority.

Mr Blunkett will decide next month whether Mr Westwood should be dismissed.
OK , so far so good. 2 liitle girls are murdered, and the man who did it. somehow slipped through Humberside Police's net.

Now Sir Michael has fingerered (shafted) David Westwood to take the blame, in spite of the fact, that most of the failures happened before his tenure as Chief Copper

Now this is interesting. Blind Pugh has actually announced in the House , that Westwood should be suspended forthwith.

WTF? I think I can see yet another Smoke and Mirrors exercise, from the Beloved Master of Illusion and his troupe of Populist Delusionists (Heh!)

Fair one David, let's sack the guy in charge of the Police Force who made these mistakes, but first, let's look at some other cases shall we?


AN ASYLUM seeker who twice raped a 15-year old girl after offering to help her faces years behind bars before he is sent back to Somalia.

Abdi Ali, 25, befriended the girl on a bus travelling from Woolwich, after she had rowed with her mother.

http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.u...-15--is-raped-by-asylum-seeker-name_page.html
Asylum Seeker 'Infected Four Women with HIV Virus'

By Paul Watson, PA News

A 28-year-old African asylum seeker infected four women with the potentially lethal HIV virus after having sex with them despite knowing he was a carrier himself, a court heard today.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2883158
Asylum seeker double rapist
A BOGUS asylum seeker in Britain was given five life sentences yesterday for raping a woman cleaner and a schoolboy while he was claiming hundreds of pounds a week in benefits because the Home Office had ``utterly lamentably'' failed to deport him. Irish News
Park rapist gets life

A RAPIST has been given two life sentences for the violent attacks of prostitutes at Abington Park in Northampton.

Kenyan asylum seeker George Kamau embarked on the sex attacks after the Home Office rejected his request to stay in this country.
The 19-year-old raped two vice girls and indecently assaulted a third
http://www.northamptontoday.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=317&ArticleID=711816
Now, as Home Secretary, do you think you should be suspended, for the failures of your department, to properly vet high risk asylum seekers? I mean, fancy failing to medically screen them even.They also occured during your tenure.

So BP jumps on the populist bandwagon, trying to pump up Neu Arbeit support in Humberside. Or worst still, lay smoke to cover up his Boss shafting us in Europe, and 8 matelots banged up in Iranian chokey.

The whole thing stinks of "Good day to release bad news"

My personal message to David Westwood , is "Stand your ground Sir" Blunkett has just inadvertently exposed a weak spot, going for a cheap kill, and it's up to you to take advantage.

Any chance of Humberside Old Bill mounting a strike action or other activity in support of their Chief?

What's the Police feeling in general?

My personal feeling, is this is a bloody farce, and a shameful episode.
 
#3
Good post PTP.

This is typical - impose a set of new bureaucratic PC rules, ensure that you cannot easily share information, set innapropriate targets then stand back and wonder why it all goes to c*ck. Oh and encourage a system where managers with the moral backbone of a jelly fish are promoted over leaders.

Humberside Ch Con should stand his ground - once Ministers started to break the rule of not blaming public servants it seems that we are all in the target array. PTP is right to highlight the failures of other policies that have had a far more devastating effect on lives than the single act (albeit tragic) of a single caretaker.

Rant over - I am sooo angry
 
#4
Percy said:
Good post PTP.

This is typical - impose a set of new bureaucratic PC rules, ensure that you cannot easily share information, set innapropriate targets then stand back and wonder why it all goes to c*ck. Oh and encourage a system where managers with the morale backbone of a jelly fish are promoted over leaders.

Humberside Ch Con should stand his ground - once Ministers started to break the rule of not blaming public servants it seems that we are all in the target array. PTP is right to highlight the failures of other policies that have had a far more devastating effect on lives than the single act (albeit tragic) of a single caretaker.

Rant over - I am sooo angry
Quite right, Percy. And if accountability goes all the way to the top, why's Buffhoon still i/c MoD? People died last year in Iraq for want of body-armour. A hell of a lot more would have gone the same way if there'd been a chemical strike, given the lack of NBC kit. If Bliar's minions are calling for heads on pikes, let them lead by example. :twisted:
 
#5
claymore said:
If Bliar's minions are calling for heads on pikes, let them lead by example
Hear hear
 
#6
The Home secretary and his party are responsible for the confused jumble of new legislation, guidelines and interference in operational matters for political reasons that leads to such tragedies. He should go himself and not try to slip the blame down the food chain.
 
#7
It's not just the tragic cases listed so far that can be laid at the doorstep of the bearded Himmler wannabe.

Look at the Eastern European visa debacle - he lost a minister after trying to shaft civil servants. Clearly this clown must go.

This perpetuates the massive gulf of distrust between the civil service, military and other Crown servants and the lying mendacious government that supposedly runs our third-world country. Watch your backs and if necessary go down fighting to try and spread some of the s#!t around!
 
#8
MrPVRd said:
It's not just the tragic cases listed so far that can be laid at the doorstep of the bearded Himmler wannabe.

Look at the Eastern European visa debacle - he lost a minister after trying to shaft civil servants. Clearly this clown must go.

This perpetuates the massive gulf of distrust between the civil service, military and other Crown servants and the lying mendacious government that supposedly runs our third-world country. Watch your backs and if necessary go down fighting to try and spread some of the s#!t around!
They can't sack Plunkett. It would be perceived as discrimination against the blind. And we couldn't have that, could we? Talk about selective self-protection! To**ers. :twisted:
 
#9
I wholeheartedly agree with you PtP.

Why is the CC of Humberside being targeted when there are others who have also appeared to fail miserably in this particular scenario?

These range for the headteacher who didn't follow up references to the CC of Cambridgeshire who has also admitted to failures.

And what about you Blind Pugh? You're Home Secretary and didn't know there wasn't a fully integrated intelligence gathering and sharing system in place? If accountability goes all the way to the top (theres a novelty) then you need to shoulder your share!!

Wan ker :evil:
 
#10
It's hardly rocket science. If Scotland's eight police forces, ranging from Strathclyde which is about the equivalent of the Met, to the tiny forces covering the remote Highlands and Islands, can operate a joined-up computer system which allows intel-sharing, why can't the better-funded equivalents in England and Wales? Maybe someone should ask Blind Pugh. Or his dog. 8)
 
#11
Filbert Fox said:
claymore said:
If Bliar's minions are calling for heads on pikes, let them lead by example
Hear hear
Indeed.

They are a menace to whatever is left of English liberty:

1. The push for a national ID card with digitized biometrics.

2. Ceaseless agitation for repeal of the right to trial by jury.

3. Eradicating last remnants of the right of the people to keep and bear arms and to defend themselves against criminal attack with or without arms.

4. Ubiquitous electronic surveillance.

5. (I realize this predates the present administration but they are helping it along.) Consciously attempting to alter the demographics of the nation to make make people steeped in Anglo-Saxon culture a minority in their own country.

http://big-blunkett.blogspot.com
 
#12
Top post PTP, the inequities of Blunkett's stance are well observed. Head Fed should stay put.

It would be nice if a journo ( much as I loathe most of them) picked up on your notion of treating Blunkett as Blunkett would treat Mr Westwood, since the asylum abusers were allowed in by Flunkit's team. Plant the seed that Blunkett is not as smart or as fair as he thinks he is, is a hypocrite and should resign.

What a blind ( in more ways than one) baastard Blunkett is.
 
#13
Well, if a friendly journalist could take what we've started and run with it?

Probably not The SUN though , after today's front page

I had no idea Campbell , now had your office Rebecca 8O
 
#14
I could understand it if the CC was failing to introduce reforms, but from what I understand he is trying to sort the whole sorry mess out. The whole thing stinks of using him as a scapegoat. If he is to blame, then why doesn't the Humberside Police Commitee, Home office bosses, Blunket and Blair go too?
 
#15
to keep this going: Humberside Police Authrity voted 13-5 to keep Mr Westwood.

why get rid of him when he knows the mistakes and can act on them?

seeings as ministers stopped taking responsibility for their departments why should anyone else?

my 2p

TJ
 
#16
Well done Humberside Old Bill

Why do I get the feeling these are the opening shots?

Oh, and name and shame the people that voted to sack him :D
 
#17
The following letter appeared in today's Telegraph.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/opinion...nuItemId=-1&view=SUMMARY&grid=P8&targetRule=0
Re: Blame Blunkett
Date: 25 June 2004

Sir - Systems of intelligence gathering and recording are demonstrably inadequate across Britain, in the absence of any national code of practice and investment in national IT facilities (News, June 23). This is not peculiar to Humberside. Responsibility lies with the Home Office.

David Westwood, Chief Constable of Humberside, is a fine officer who has done much good for the region. He was not in post when the main failings occurred, but he has never sought to avoid responsibility or hide behind his subordinates' actions. He has been consistently clear and straightforward.

Contrast this with the abject failures of the Home Office over immigration, asylum and the granting of visas. The Home Secretary has frequently sought to hide the truth from the public and, when failures can no longer be hidden, has chosen to blame junior officials.

The hypocrisy of the Home Secretary is staggering.

From:
Rodger Booth, High Sheriff of the East Riding of Yorkshire, Driffield, E Yorks
This is not quite what I hoped for but it's a start. Blunkett should resign.
 
#18
I'd rather see the Met Commissioner go! In the papers today there's a story about a convicted rapist who got a job as a teacher using a faked CV - the police decided not to inform the school because he seemed 'settled'!!

Haven't these morons learnt anything!

If the Government want to blame anyone and talk about responsibility then the whole of them should go, and go now. Typical politicians - no shame.
 
#19
I thought local accountability had something to do with these issues. The Police Authority have given their backing to the CC (albeit by majority rather than unanimous) and that tw at Blunkett still wants him out.

I hope this becomes a real fight and Blunkett ends up with a bloody nose!! :twisted:

I'd rather see the Met Commissioner go! In the papers today there's a story about a convicted rapist who got a job as a teacher using a faked CV - the police decided not to inform the school because he seemed 'settled'!!
And this is just un-fcuking-believable!!
 
#20
hope no-one minds but i took the liberty of sending an e-mail to 10 downing street (go to their website) with a link to this forum - thought it migh tinterest them to see th earmy's opinion on this matter.

let me know if i done bad!

TJ
 

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