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Blood thinners and problems

#1
Had a heart problem 16 months ago, no arteries blocked, no surgery.
Put onto what I presume was the standard medication pack, greatly reduced now as I get fitter, down from 6 meds twice a day to one aspirin, one 12.5 carvedilol and two 2.5 ramipril.
Bruising easily is a given, looks bloody awful on the arms and hands but GP not too bothered.
The problem now is the skin on my arms and hands literally sloughing off even from a minor scrape against a door handle or other solid object, on one occasion I banged my elbow wearing two layers, blood everywhere and a wound that took over two weeks to heal.
Anyone experienced similar problems, I have a GP who allocates precisely the same amount of time to a broken leg as she will for a brain tumour bursting in reception.
 
#2
Yes. Bleed like a stuck pig from even a minor grazing blow. Sucks, and yes I have a very good GP.
Nothing he can do, its just the reality with this medication. Nail cutting time is a nightmare of sore and bleeding toes.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
Yes. Bleed like a stuck pig from even a minor grazing blow. Sucks, and yes I have a very good GP.
Nothing he can do, its just the reality with this medication. Nail cutting time is a nightmare of sore and bleeding toes.
you aren't supposed to do them with a belt sander.

they put me on ramipril for stupidly high BP while waiting for an op to remove a badly fitted plate so I sympathise - its a shit drug and I stopped as soon as I got it done.

daft thing is I had a bp of 180/120 with a pulse of 40-50 I was pumping fine the BP was pain related due to the bad plate.

I've read several studies where if they actually did a proper medical most of the drugs wouldn't be needed but they are a standard issue based on drug company computer models.
 
#5
you aren't supposed to do them with a belt sander.

they put me on ramipril for stupidly high BP while waiting for an op to remove a badly fitted plate so I sympathise - its a shit drug and I stopped as soon as I got it done.

daft thing is I had a bp of 180/120 with a pulse of 40-50 I was pumping fine the BP was pain related due to the bad plate.

I've read several studies where if they actually did a proper medical most of the drugs wouldn't be needed but they are a standard issue based on drug company computer models.


One days worth of smarties…

Clopidogrel, 75mg
Aspirin, 75mg
Aterovastatin, 80mg
Bisoprolol, 2.5mg
Candesartin, 4mg
Naproxen, 500mg bi-daily
Lansoprazole, 30mg, bi-daily
Tamsulosin, 400mg
Gabapentin, 300mg
Co-Codamol, 500mg as required
Paracetamol, 500mg as required
Hypomelose eye drops, as required


Weekly

Methotrexate, 20mg
Folic Acid, 5mg

Monthly

350mg, Infliximab TNF infusion



Did I tell you I rattle? ;P
 
#10
Good luck with those stents. The doc gave me the manual to mine after the op in 97, with a ten-year warranty. Seems ok so far! Never had any problems like those described above, thankfully.
 
#11
Many thanks, ironically i was as fit as a butchers dog prior to the clot hitting me, had been for a full medical 6 weeks before everything in good nick.

just goes to show, live every day.
 
#12
Many thanks, ironically i was as fit as a butchers dog prior to the clot hitting me, had been for a full medical 6 weeks before everything in good nick.

just goes to show, live every day.


Yep, every days a bonus after you get the big bear hug of death and a blues and two trip to the cardiac unit.
 
#13
Had two stents inserted in July back at work but get really tired quickly. Spoke with the cardiac nurse. Common complaint mainly due to the Beta Blockers.

Getting back to fitness slowly by way of cycling and light weights. Hard to believe but this time last year I was Boxing twice a week as well as hitting the gym at least twice a week.

Went clay pigeon shooting last Sunday, Woke up Monday face looking like I'd sparred a few rounds with Carl Froch. One again put down to the medication.

Never smoked and since leaving the mob in 76 only drank moderately. Luck of the draw.
 

DieHard

LE
Book Reviewer
#14
Had two stents inserted in July back at work but get really tired quickly. Spoke with the cardiac nurse. Common complaint mainly due to the Beta Blockers.

Getting back to fitness slowly by way of cycling and light weights. Hard to believe but this time last year I was Boxing twice a week as well as hitting the gym at least twice a week.

Went clay pigeon shooting last Sunday, Woke up Monday face looking like I'd sparred a few rounds with Carl Froch. One again put down to the medication.

Never smoked and since leaving the mob in 76 only drank moderately. Luck of the draw.
I will take your 2 stents and add 5 I'm running out of room, beta blockers will lower bp and slow the rate down easing the workload on your heart but if you are getting tired and short of breath they may have put you into heart block.
I know your nurse said it could be the pills but it may not, as you have found out shortness of breath is an indicator that something could be going wrong again, get it checked out or see if your doctors will do an ecg.
I have had 5 Mi's and various other stuff done unfortunately for me the heart disease is very aggressive. I don't smoke hardly drink and have low lipids and my life is often not very pleasant.
Back on to op a recent survey has found out that a high number of people don't respond to clopidigral so get that checked out, mixed with 75mg daily dose of aspirin it shouldn't make you bleed and bruise as you say, add enoxpirin or warfarin and that could certainly cause your problems.
Most doctors have an anti coagulant clinic, see if you can attend one it may help.
I hope you all feel better
 

DieHard

LE
Book Reviewer
#15
Had a heart problem 16 months ago, no arteries blocked, no surgery.
Put onto what I presume was the standard medication pack, greatly reduced now as I get fitter, down from 6 meds twice a day to one aspirin, one 12.5 carvedilol and two 2.5 ramipril.
Bruising easily is a given, looks bloody awful on the arms and hands but GP not too bothered.
The problem now is the skin on my arms and hands literally sloughing off even from a minor scrape against a door handle or other solid object, on one occasion I banged my elbow wearing two layers, blood everywhere and a wound that took over two weeks to heal.
Anyone experienced similar problems, I have a GP who allocates precisely the same amount of time to a broken leg as she will for a brain tumour bursting in reception.
Your heart problem was it to do with AF or similar rate control problems?
 

DieHard

LE
Book Reviewer
#16
One days worth of smarties…

Clopidogrel, 75mg
Aspirin, 75mg
Aterovastatin, 80mg
Bisoprolol, 2.5mg
Candesartin, 4mg
Naproxen, 500mg bi-daily
Lansoprazole, 30mg, bi-daily
Tamsulosin, 400mg
Gabapentin, 300mg
Co-Codamol, 500mg as required
Paracetamol, 500mg as required
Hypomelose eye drops, as required


Weekly

Methotrexate, 20mg
Folic Acid, 5mg

Monthly

350mg, Infliximab TNF infusion



Did I tell you I rattle? ;P[/QUOTE]
That's a nice low dose of bisoprolol mine is 15mg
Does the gabapentin work well? And does it have any side effects you noticed cos my doc wants to give it to me, and I'm not sure
 
#17
Are you contesting your doc's opinion? I can understand that - I've tried (successfully in a few cases) to reduce everything they've given me at every turn over the years, considering the bloody side-effects some of them had - but would tend to accept good professional advice.

That doesn't include the sort of advice I've been given in Lagos and points SouthEast, mind.
 
#18
Your heart problem was it to do with AF or similar rate control problems?
Sorry for the delay. I had no heart disease history or any other symptoms, briefly.. bp was 120/80, bmi was fine 5' 9" at 67kg, pulse @60 chloresteral 4.6.

working pretty hard that week, physically. Then numb left forearm, radiated to left jaw, i am a medic first responder so i 999 it

straight away, no stents etc, blood clot in the left coronary artery,clear as a bell on the angio, all the artery were/are flowing loke a motorway.
As some one said luck of the draw?
Thanks for all the responses fellahs, some interesting stuff re: drug interactions etc, the tired and breathless has subsided since the meds have been adjusted.
 
#19
Are you contesting your doc's opinion? I can understand that - I've tried (successfully in a few cases) to reduce everything they've given me at every turn over the years, considering the bloody side-effects some of them had - but would tend to accept good professional advice.

That doesn't include the sort of advice I've been given in Lagos and points SouthEast, mind.
No not at all, but experience shows that most GPs will have a rethink or refer the patient if meds are causing problems, that coupled with advances made says to push a bit. The aim of course is to get back to "normal" with the minimum amount of chemicals if possible.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#20
my dad broke his leg skiing, french docs gave him blood thinners and said he needed an injection twice a day. I offered to administer them for him but nhs doc said 'waste of time no need, I'll take those' (cue big family arguament with the other kids on my side) but he decided he didn't want the jabs.

2 months later he is in hospital being cut up to remove clots and on permanent medication since.
 

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