Bliar visited the wounded....biography claim

#1
As his Sedgefield result was declared in 2005 Mr Blair was attacked by an antiwar candidate who said he hoped that Mr Blair would visit wounded soldiers in hospital.

The book says: “With Cherie on the edge of tears ‘it clearly impacted very badly on him; it was the most visibly weak I had ever seen him,’ said one close aide. What was not known was that Blair had already visited and would continue to visit the wounded from Afghanistan and Iraq. He had, however, taken steps to ensure that the media did not report this information. ‘I don’t want it to become political,’ he told one military officer, ‘and because I don’t want it to become political I’m prepared to take the hit from people that think I don’t visit.’ He did it ‘for the sake of his own conscience,’ said one official.”
Hmm, he says, scratching chin. How could he not want it to become political? It should be political - the decision maker paying respect to those who pay the price for the decision taken, and showing respect in public.

I don't believe a word of it. Where are all these people who have been visited by this latter-day Florence Nightingale, flitting anonymously from bedside to bedside. Surely eveon one discharged veteran would have admitted to have being visited by now? :evil:

Liar. The rest of the extract is worth reading, although the man can never feel enough despair to balance the consequences of his mendacity.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/biography/article2759391.ece
 
#2
I understand that he did visit Headley Court once, just before he left office. I am told that he was visibly shaken.

I know several people at RCDM (from whom I knew that various members of the Royal family had made private visits), but none of them have ever mentioned Bliar of the WMF visiting.
 
#3
Is this one of those damned if they do damned if they don't scenarios?
 
#4
He had, however, taken steps to ensure that the media did not report this information. ‘I don’t want it to become political,’ he told one military officer, ‘and because I don’t want it to become political I’m prepared to take the hit from people that think I don’t visit.’ He did it ‘for the sake of his own conscience,’ said one official.
Of course it's political. Blair is far too accomplished a PR-master for this story to be anything but fully calculated, planned and scheduled. To take it for anything else would be foolish and naive.
 
#5
Personally speaking, if I woke up in hospital with the Wicked Witch and her husband hovering over me, my first SOP would be to check my wallet.
 
#6
The_Cad said:
Personaly speaking, if I woke up in hospital with the Wicked Witch and her husband hovering over me, my first SOP would be to check my wallet.
What an awful thought,its what hell must be like.

Pity the lying toad and his hanger ons couldnt be bothered to show thier respects at Brize when the casualties were coming back.
 

Biped

LE
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#7
The_Cad said:
Personaly speaking, if I woke up in hospital with the Wicked Witch and her husband hovering over me, my first SOP would be to check my wallet.
and then dig around in your bedspace for your gatt. You never know your luck!
 
#9
ViroBono said:
I understand that he did visit Headley Court once, just before he left office. I am told that he was visibly shaken.
A pity he wasn't violently shaken, out of a window maybe.

If our former PM is now essentially 'walting it' re our casualties and trying to belatedly gain credibility for visits that didn't take place then I hope his claims can be confirmed one way or the other and followed by a 'outing' in the national press. It's the least he's due.
 
#11
The biography was written by Anthony Seldon, not exactly a Blairite. Why do You doubt that He did this - because the author (as Headmaster of a 'public' school and fierce advocate of the independent system) is prone to making things up? Not checking His facts? Is a Blairite?

Do some reading, check how His previous biographies of Blair were seen by Blair and then see how the Conservatives acknowledged His other works.
 
#12
A story did the rounds among some RAMC types I know, that he visited Selly Oak in mid-2005 (spookily, not long after there was some criticism in the press about him not having been, although I'm sure there can't be any connection). The story goes that he walked through the corridors, and came on a cleaner who was mopping the floor. Somewhat surprised, the cleaner seemed at a loss for words, so Tony slithered up to her and wittered on about how important the NHS was, and how it was safe in his hands. 'Never mind all that dear' said the cleaner, 'haven't you brought Camilla with you - I want to see her wedding ring'. Cue strangled laughter from the mil pers.

Don
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
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#13
The problem with Blair is his past form
Given that he is a slimey weasel who manipulated the truth when it suits him no one knows who or what to believe anymore
Personally I think had he done the visit then the press would have been all over it
An insider would have 'leaked' it to someone much the same as the Princess Di visits to the homeless at night always just happend to have a passing film crew nearby
Or we would have had a cheese fest of sutibly distressed Bliar giving us a lecture on the troops giving us there all and how he supports them but the fact that these lads here will lose allowences etc isn't my fault I don't make the rules.
I'm firmly in the don't believe it camp
 
#14
Sven said:
The biography was written by Anthony Seldon, not exactly a Blairite. Why do You doubt that He did this - because the author (as Headmaster of a 'public' school and fierce advocate of the independent system) is prone to making things up? Not checking His facts? Is a Blairite?

Do some reading, check how His previous biographies of Blair were seen by Blair and then see how the Conservatives acknowledged His other works.
Seldon may or may not have reasonable credentials - depending on your point of view. But this 'visit' should be quite easy to verify, or was everyone sworn to secrecy do you think?

All Seldon has to do is to provide a date on which this visitation took place. After all, the Prime Minister's movements are never really that secret.
 
#15
the_boy_syrup said:
The problem with Blair is his past form
Given that he is a slimey weasel who manipulated the truth when it suits him no one knows who or what to believe anymore
Personally I think had he done the visit then the press would have been all over it
An insider would have 'leaked' it to someone much the same as the Princess Di visits to the homeless at night always just happend to have a passing film crew nearby
Or we would have had a cheese fest of sutibly distressed Bliar giving us a lecture on the troops giving us there all and how he supports them but the fact that these lads here will lose allowences etc isn't my fault I don't make the rules.
I'm firmly in the don't believe it camp
hear hear!!
 
#16
Sven said:
The biography was written by Anthony Seldon, not exactly a Blairite. Why do You doubt that He did this - because the author (as Headmaster of a 'public' school and fierce advocate of the independent system) is prone to making things up? Not checking His facts? Is a Blairite?
Err, mainly because of the level of anger on these boards over the last eighteen months to two years that Blair wasn't visiting the wounded. Arrse is the new beeb and if I read it here it first it scores far lower on my bull-shit-o-meter than from any other open source.

As neither you or I have been part of the casualty system I could equally ask why you are inclined to believe it?

Sven said:
Do some reading, check how His previous biographies of Blair were seen by Blair and then see how the Conservatives acknowledged His other works.
If by doing some reading you are suggesting the collected biographies of Princess Tone I respectfully ask you to sod off.
 
#17
Sven said:
The biography was written by Anthony Seldon, not exactly a Blairite. Why do You doubt that He did this - because the author (as Headmaster of a 'public' school and fierce advocate of the independent system) is prone to making things up? Not checking His facts? Is a Blairite?

Do some reading, check how His previous biographies of Blair were seen by Blair and then see how the Conservatives acknowledged His other works.
Do you think he is God? Because there is no other reason to capitalise when writing about him?
 
#18
I remember the film "Tumbledown" where a wounded sgt (I think) saw someone I believe playing Nott. He put his wounded right hand out of the sling and behind his back and said "I thought you had resigned sir."

Classic!
 
#19
Strait Jacket.

He wrote biographies of Thatcher and Major, as well as a history of the Conservative party - the latter two now considered the official works.

THAT's what I meant by advocating some reading be done.


If anyone could be bothered, Blairs visits to military wounded could easily be obtained using the freedom of information gubbins - alternately You could write to Sheldon at Wellington School where He is currently Headmaster
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
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#20
Sven said:
Strait Jacket.

He wrote biographies of Thatcher and Major, as well as a history of the Conservative party - the latter two now considered the official works.

THAT's what I meant by advocating some reading be done.


If anyone could be bothered, Blairs visits to military wounded could easily be obtained using the freedom of information gubbins - alternately You could write to Sheldon at Wellington School where He is currently Headmaster
I googled it and couldn't find anything about Blair visiting the wounded
Plenty about Blair and Iraq

BTW did any of the other leaders visit the wounded either?
 

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