Bliar to be Impeached!

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  1. Channel 4 News - Plaid Cymru MP Adam Price has dusted off the books and concluded that impeachment, used routinely by Parliament and King in the time of Charles I, is still possible.

    Can they still chop his head off?? :twisted:
     
  2. Apparently, it will depend on whether the Speaker of the Commons will allow an impeachment debate.
     
  3. If they do, can they do it in small slices...... starting from his feet?
     
  4. No, not decapitation in slices from his feet, as he might talk for longer and the sight of that sickening grin split in two does not bear waiting for! :twisted:

    Apparently, the instigator of the impeachment takes the "articles of impeachment" to the Lords who act as jury, with the Lord Chancellor (unfortunately Bliar's old flatmate on a part-time basis) acting as judge. The peers vote "guilty" or "not guilty" and, after the Commons have voted, punishment is passed.

    It was used to do away with all sorts of characters in the 17th century, and the wife of Charles I was also rumoured to be a target for impeachment. Get the Wicked Witch as well!! :twisted:

    On a serious note, the procedure caused Clinton serious grief and the threat of impeachment caused Nixon to stand down. So, amusement value aside, this could do some real damage even if (as is highly likely) it leads nowhere.
     

  5. Thank goodness, I have been boring the good lady wife long enough with my theory that impeachment is the way forward.

    Sorry, can't give source right off but this is on web:

    Impeachment
    An impeachment is a criminal trial initiated in the House of Commons with the House of Lords acting as judges. It was first used during the 14th century, fell into disuse from the mid-15th century and was revived during the 17th century at the instigation of Sir Edward Coke in the Parliament of 1621. It was used in the Long Parliament as a means of bringing unpopular royal ministers to account, notably the Earl of Strafford and Archbishop Laud, who were impeached within weeks of Parliament assembling. Rumours that Parliament was planning to impeach Queen Henrietta Maria because of her involvement in alleged Catholic plots precipitated the King's disastrous attempt to arrest the Five Members in January 1642.

    Impeachment continued to be used occasionally throughout the 17th and 18th centuries; its last use in Britain was in 1806. A similar procedure is still part of the constitution of the United States.
     
  6. Laud and Strafford both ended up a foot shorter - there is hope! :twisted:

    One of the reasons that Charles I was so unpopular was the public perception that his wife was an "unhealthy" Catholic influence. This is ironic, given Bliar's frequent flirting with the "true faith" in the company of his Catholic wife and despite the protests of the late Cardinal Hume who rightly considered that you were either in or out! Bliar's (nauseating)response to this assertion of ecclesiastical discipline was to wonder "what Jesus would have said."


    I suspect that the Catholicism of the Wicked Witch (thankfully) concerns very few people nowadays and that Bliar and Charles I, seperated by over three centuries, share the common trait of public dislike for reasons of insufferable vanity, a conviction they that they rule by "divine right," an unhealthy use of prerogative powers to bypass accountability, and a general contempt for public and parliament. :twisted:
     
  7. woopert

    woopert LE Moderator

    I suspect it would have been somewhere along the lines of "I tell you solemnly, you are either in or out"

    BLiar treats religion like he treats pretty much everything by espousing the "3rd way", i.e. he wants to pull the strings of the CofE and feels an affinity for the woolly, ill-defined moral authority of the church and likes appointing such ill-defined and wooly thinkers to bishopricks (such as Rowan Williams to Cantab), but wants to reach out to Catholics (one presumes) in order to excert a liberal influence on it. Cardinal Hume quite rightly had no time for such ambiguity and stopped him from receivnig communion unless he committed to Catholicism and converted. Seeing as there is still a block on a PM being a catholic he declined, but I wouldn't be surprised if he converts when he is removed from his throne. I'm a little surprised that having been rebuked so publicly by Card Hume that he didn't lead a resurgance of Catholicism as the latest thought crime, along with all of the others he has created and elevated by the Human Rights and other state sponsored anti-thought legislation.

    It's a pity there aren't more of the likes of the late Cardinal Archbisop of Westminster floating around who are prepapred to call a spade a spade and stand up for something absolute instead of the neutered permissive, relitavist nation we have become at BLiar's "3rd way" hands.
     
  8. ...and about bloody time too.

    If it ever did work (unlikely) who whould take over?

    Civ
     
  9. Hurrah for Rome! Standing up against tyranny from Poland and Central America to Whitehall!

    But this is an ecumenical matter! All faiths should agree that this government is a Godless, heartless, deformed Socialist abhorration that should have been but out of its misery long ago. But who will save us?

    We can only pray for the second coming of Maggie....er....no that won't work either.

    No good watching 'King Arthur' for inspiration either. It's sh1te.
     
  10. Not Two Jags, Greedy Gordon,TCH or any of his other bum-chums one would hope. Maybe we could have an election?
     
  11. An election..... now there's a novel idea!! :)
     
  12. Hm, we could write to the Queen and ask if she'd be happy to take over for a bit. She probably knows her way around every political trick in the book.

    Might be interesting...until the election of course. It's not as if I'd ever advocate the fall of democracy in favour of an archaic (but probably more efficient) monarchy.

    :roll:
     
  13. Boris Johnson! :D

    I'd better get started on my letter to the Queen then, this will be an interesting trial to watch..

    Civ
     
  14. Impeachment was mostly been used in Britain during the 1640s Civil War.
    Loving that BBC grammar too.