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Blandford, What A Joy

stella_rules said:
Polar,

Reading most of your posts, methinks you need to think before you type.
hmm ... or put a different way, if Pints_of_Stella_Consumed > 8 then don't post on websites :D :D
 
As the footie was on terrestrial, why did he not watch it in his pad or own mess ?.

Sounds a bit of a teaser to me. Or is it tosser?.
 
C'mon guys. If you hate Blandford that much why not fail your trade and go RD :twisted:

At least that way if you go to Blandford you'll be on the other side of the fence :?
 
polar said:
stella_rules said:
Polar,

Reading most of your posts, methinks you need to think before you type.
hmm ... or put a different way, if Pints_of_Stella_Consumed > 8 then don't post on websites :D :D

I've only had a session since 1200 so I think I can post some BS.

What do you think?

CH
 
Done my Class 1 in Catterick early 90's - we marched to and from trade as a course.

Whats the big deal doing it now?? seems to me that you lot have been pampered and wrapped in cotton wool since you joined - and now someone is giving you an order to do something, all you can do is cry about it.

Get a freaking grip of yourselves or exchange your green suit for a pin stripe one and get the fu*k out of something you cant handle.

If youve got problems with orders, PM me and i'll give you one....
 
sl,
The guys who teach on the courses do a good job but what they get told to teach is utter crap. They look at RSTO's and it seems whatever they contain (different trades etc) gets interpretted as OJT, Infosec, Compusec, EW (very good presentation) and orders.
 
http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=164887&highlight=#164887

sandypandy said:
Evening all, it's my first post so be gentle.....
Am presently at Blandford fm 264, and the "shape of berets" argument has continued to be an issue that draws fire from all kinds of places, including Lt Col rank.....

1. Some people simply don't like the shape [flat cap], find it irritating, un-uniformal, and unprofessional.
2. Some folks think that the airborne and SF blokes large it outrageously.

My responses to these (fairly reasonable thoughts) are as follows:

  • 1. I don't like the dead budgie thing the Fusiliers wear, but realise that they (rightly) wear it as a unit badge of honour that distinguishes them from their infantry brethren, from whom they would otherwise be no different. All infantry units have their individual traditions, and their esprit-de-corps is all the better for it. My opinion on their headgear is irrelevant - I don't work there, nor do I command them. If the fusiliers is a better place for having a flock of dead budgies, then great. All power to them. Time spent contemplating the shape of the airborne beret might be better spent getting other signals personnel to the same standards as the 264/216 lads who are usually around the top at phys, trade, and military knowledge.

    Because rest of the Corps simply doesn't have the calibre of men to pass the two courses in anything like sufficient numbers, both units have a large percentage of similarly dressed signallers who are not qualified to be there. Thus the (maybe un-liked) beret shape is the only way to tell a 264 Special Forces Communicator from some bloke who's just been posted in to answer the phone at Hereford. No one's knocking the posted lads - I'm glad they're there, it means we can get on with our primary task. But I trained for a year and a bit, followed by a 6 month course and a 6 month probationary period, to work with a sabre sqd. Therefore I wear the relevant beret shape. Even if it looks daft. I've earned the right to.

    2. We are fairly guilty of the larging it to a point. Some senior Corps individuals have probably identified that wearing the alley beret and smocks / Lowa boots acts as a kind of mobile middle-finger-up at the rest of the corps. There is without a doubt an element of truth about this. It should be remembered that this serves two vital purposes :
    It UNDOUBTABLY aids 264 and 216 recruitment. Not everyone wants to parachute or tab, but EVERYBODY who serves in the army has at some point or other thought "I fu@::{g hate this place. I'd love to go someplace I can do something else where the place/people I work for/with don't get me down...." At which point a group of airborne lads, smiling and not letting life get to them, go past. The poor sod from 3 Div thinks, "Right, screw this, I'm gonna do that."

    Everyone can relate to giving the middle finger to the corps, because we've all wanted to do it at some point really, really badly. I'm aware this isn't a popular fact, understandably, but as an aid to getting people motivated to prepare hard enough to pass the courses it serves a purpose, and as long as the guys don't over-do the larging it this should probably be left alone.

    3. It aids 216 and 264 esprit-de-corps. Having worked hard to get people there, we also want to keep people there. Part of being a team involves (unfortunately) having people outside the group as well as inside. That's part of the definition of a team - there are people who don't get to join in because they aren't good enough. Sad, elitist maybe, but necessary to form strong bonds. Who's going to work hard to join a team any fool can get into ? The only sign of being on the team at those units is the alley beret. It is a visible "badge" of being part of a group that others can aspire to. I have yet to met anyone who said "I really want to wear a small plane on my arm/ charging rhino/number one". Certainly never met anyone who was so proud to be there that they tatooed the damn thing on their body! Wings, on the other hand....
    Daft maybe. But it works.
Thus in conclusion I would say this. If the Corps Command element, clearly based at Blandford, left the Beret shape alone, it would quickly find the lads from Hereford towing the line on other issues such as sideburns and boots. If it allowed 264 / 216 blokes posted to Blandford as instructors to retain their beret's (as is done at all other trg establishments) they would find a higher quality of instructor applying to work there, which would have positive knock-on effects at Blandford.

Whilst Blandford continues to give the beret (which whilst as daft as a dead budgie clearly has a decent reason behind it) a hard time whilst simultaneously having fat unprofessional instructors and RP staff who clearly don't want to work there, then the fit, motivated, and knowledgeable lads from 216 and Hereford will continue to think the place hypocritical - and act accordingly. Which is a shame, since Blandford could actually be a great place to work.

Sorry it was long, as the bishop said to the actress. Thanks for reading.
 
Hello365 pay attention

Thanks for the blatent DS answer of ripping off someone elses work and posting it on every page. WELL ******* DONE. Sandypandy wrote some valid points (and some total ARRSE) you have just pissed of a large portion of everyone by repeating them. The point of ARRSE is to allow us to express our own views independently.

Heck try giving us YOUR views on the situation. and if "sunray" dont like it stick up for yourself.

Unless sunray aint that far away.
 
Disco said:
Pennywise,

What a shame you dont have the balls to say such a sweeping statement to his face...

Disco I have noticed you say this to a few people now, do you tell every officer and person of a rank higher than you what you think every time you have a gripe? No I think not. Because that isn't what you do in the army, you take an order and keep your mouth shut. the people at teh top can't stand critisism and wil bounce anyone that does answer back.

The who whole point of this site is for people to have a moan about the army and the crap they have to deal with as it is the only place you can do it without being charged / busted.

If this site was only for good comments about the army it would not have any members and the ones who were on it would not post.

disco said:
As for the rest of you need to get over yourselves, stop your selfishness and just get on with it.

If discipline is so difficult for you to master/adhere too then remove yourself from the equation.

Have some values and standards.

No it isn't discipline, it is Blandford arrse and everyone knows it. You don't find it in many other corps or services. If you haven't got anything constuctive to say then don't say it!!!!
 
Well said jest can i just add my 10p's worth though

What do you want us to do disco say it to their face or shut up and stop moaning about it.

I'd say it to your face but i aint sure which one to use. :p :p
 
Sh1t_list

Cos complaining about stuff on ARRSE is much more fun and gets us in less sh!t. Have you not realised yet we are just venting, we realise we aint gonna change anything but we enjoy complaining. It's fun. Thats what the world wide web is for, music, porn and bitching. get used to it.

Oh and i have said it their faces many times (drunken chest poke whooo) so my cotton wool can't be that thick.
 
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