Blair asks Blair

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...1.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/01/ixportal.html

Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, asked the Home Office to draw up "rules of engagement", similar to those issued to the military, for use by armed officers confronting suspected suicide bombers, it was disclosed yesterday.

He also pressed Tony Blair to give officers the maximum legal protection against prosecution.
Probably licenses to kill should be issued.

I'm interesting, what if Brazilian electrician would be killed not by police, but by soldiers in Befast in exactly the same situation. What would be further development then? Probably it would be established that they acted within 'rules of engagement' or investigation would last years and years.

Sir Ian probably dreams about situation where policmen could beat to death any person in custody without any conseuences.
 
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Posted by mistake. Sorry.
 
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KGB_resident said:
I'm interesting, what if Brazilian electrician would be killed not by police, but by soldiers in Befast in exactly the same situation. What would be further development then? Probably it would be established that they acted within 'rules of engagement' or investigation would last years and years.
not a chance, they would have been hung drawn and quartered by the CPS and left to rot by Tony Blair and the govt, just as many troops who fired their weapons in NI have in the past.
 
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Filbert Fox said:
KGB_resident said:
I'm interesting, what if Brazilian electrician would be killed not by police, but by soldiers in Befast in exactly the same situation. What would be further development then? Probably it would be established that they acted within 'rules of engagement' or investigation would last years and years.
not a chance, they would have been hung drawn and quartered by the CPS and left to rot by Tony Blair and the govt, just as many troops who fired their weapons in NI have in the past.
Obviously you know the situation better. So the policemen who killed the Brazilian whould have softly speaking some problems (if they would be soldiers).

I would like to ask you and our friends there: what is a probability to be killid by police in London (as a suspect) if I would come to London as a tourist?

In this context I would appreciate comments to this article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4297532.stm

It appears that after more than 2 months after killing of the man investigations has not been launched. Is it a normal situation? In any democratic country investigation is initiated immediately if anybody is killed (even if killers are policemen).

Newly-released letters reveal why the Met Police commissioner delayed the start of an independent investigation into a fatal shooting by police.
Sir Ian Blair wrote in his letter:

The investigation will be carried out by the Met's own Directorate of Professional Standards. This investigation will be rigorous...
I have some questions about British legal system. Sir Ian is (with my full respect) only high ranked police official. Why has he right to decide what body will investigate the incident where his subordinates are involved? In any democratic country prosecutors (who are independent from police) decide this question. In Russia you can disagree with their decision and complain further including General Prosecutor. And his decision is not final. You can complain to courts including Supreme Court. There is common principle of justice: body that could be guilty in a case is not allowed to investigate the case.

It is possible that real cause of the killing is an instruction signed by sir Ian. Would it be investigated now? I doubt. Would be the case brought to court? It is unclear. Have relatives of the Brazilian right to complain, to demand independent investigation, to demand a material compensation? Have they right that the case will be regarded not by officials (with their endless letters) but by court?

PS. Unlike existed thread about the killing itself, I would like to discuss namely features of British legal system.
 

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