Blair accepts disaster in Iraq

#1
Tony Blair has publicly accepted that the violence in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003 has been a disaster.
The prime minister's remark came during an interview with Sir David Frost on the new al-Jazeera English-language Arabic TV channel.

The Liberal Democrats have seized on his comment saying he has finally accepted the enormity of his decision to go to war in Iraq.

But Downing Street has insisted that Mr Blair's views have been misrepresented.

Mr Blair made the remark when he was challenged by Sir David that the Western intervention in Iraq had "so far been pretty much of a disaster".

He replied: "It has, but you see what I say to people is why is it difficult in Iraq?

"It's not difficult because of some accident in planning, it's difficult because there's a deliberate strategy - al-Qaeda with Sunni insurgents on one hand, Iranian-backed elements with Shia militias on the other - to create a situation in which the will of the majority for peace is displaced by the will of the minority for war."
It's difficult because there was NO post-conflict planning you fool. Your damned ego got us into this , and repeatedly sticking your head in the sand , and refusing to criticise America, and your steadfast refusal to listen to the experts , but rather dismissing them as 'Arabists' when it became obvious things were going to hell in a handcart.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6160466.stm

What the hell did you use for planning and guidance , prayer meetings with the Shrub? You ignored every qualified civil and Military expert , you stayed silent when you were being told that barely qualified clowns were screwing it for everyone. Worst of all, you kept silent even when it was obvious to everyone the politicians taking decisions away from Military commanders was going to end in tears.

If you had only listened , but your ego just wouldn't allow you to.

Oh **** it, we've been over this over and over again, I really am starting to think this man needs a check-up from the neck up. He just can't accept he is a major part of the problem.
 
#2
He just can't accept he is a major part of the problem.
You just described 90% of elected officials.
 
#3
Mr Blair made the remark when he was challenged by Sir David that the Western intervention in Iraq had "so far been pretty much of a disaster".

He replied: "It has, but you see what I say to people is why is it difficult in Iraq?
Only the labour party could come up with this response:

But Downing Street has insisted that Mr Blair's views have been misrepresented.
 
#4
But Downing Street has insisted that Mr Blair's views have been misrepresented.
Yes it IS what he said but NOT what he meant - please wipe the tape and revise your opinions.
 
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armchair_jihad said:
But Downing Street has insisted that Mr Blair's views have been misrepresented.
Yes it IS what he said but NOT what he meant - please wipe the tape and revise your opinions.
It's all gone a little Lewis Carroll, hasn't it? 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'
 
#6
Could somebody please a la Cross of Iron, take Tony and show him where the 'Iron crosses grow'
 
#7
Presumably if he has accepted the disaster of Iraq he should now apologise to the Iraqi people, to our Armed Forces, to the British people, and the citizens of the world and promptly resign?
 

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GM_1000 said:
armchair_jihad said:
But Downing Street has insisted that Mr Blair's views have been misrepresented.
Yes it IS what he said but NOT what he meant - please wipe the tape and revise your opinions.
It's all gone a little Lewis Carroll, hasn't it? 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'
This made me sit up GM_1000, I actually used the whole quote on a paper that dealt with the middle east and ideology specifically, including Iraq which I entitled 'follow the white rabbit'....got to post the full quote here. Excellent post to wake up to mate....


‘“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “It means just what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less.”

“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “who is the master. That is all.”’
 
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#9
Perhaps in his twighlight years, he'll have time to reflect on 'his war'.

Unlike Churchill's belief that 'history would be kind to him as he intended to write it', history isn't going to be kind to Bliar, because others will write it.
 
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Tony Blair will always be known as Bush's lackey and the man who singlehandedly dragged the UK into Iraq. Remember the man is a lawyer, he knows exactly what he is saying and why he is saying it:

Weapons of mass destruction ..... 40 minutes away etc etc.
 
#12
Pity he can't be impeached
Guarantee that he couldn't talk his way out of it.
He's sinking faster than the Belgrano, and all his 'friends' are now Gordon Broons latest good buddies.
Even his sisterin-law can see the way the wind is blowing and scarpered off to OZ
 
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nigegilb said:
Presumably if he has accepted the disaster of Iraq he should now apologise to the Iraqi people, to our Armed Forces, to the British people, and the citizens of the world and promptly resign?
The whole cabinet please, as it is collective responsibility. :x
 
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Biscuits,
I'm sure Churchill would only need to have laid eyes on Blair and his immediate response would be to give the wretch a f'ucking good slap, while yelling at him,
"Finest hour, you call this our finest hour, well do you, you little shit?"

And if later he had found out that Blair had not taken the trouble or care to find out whether the chemical weapons Saddam had allegedly possessed were battlefield response weapons or long range offensive ones,
I'm sure he would have wrung Blair's neck.
 
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Remember that Blair was so desperate to save himself in the immediate aftermath he sent precious special forces assets on a wild goose chase to try and find non-existent WMD in Iraq. I am sure they had better things to do. It was his decision, his twisting of evidence, his arm bending, his bravora actors' performance that convinced reluctant Labour MPs to rubber stamp his war. When he twists and turns in the coming months he will try and pass off the post war planning as someone elses problem. No chance. The invasion itself was the big mistake, his decision pre-empted civil war.
 
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Biscuits_AB said:
Perhaps in his twighlight years, he'll have time to reflect on 'his war'.

Unlike Churchill's belief that 'history would be kind to him as he intended to write it', history isn't going to be kind to Bliar, because others will write it.
Good point Biscuits, and unlike Churchill, Blair as yet shows no signs of resigning his post and heading off to command a Battalion on the Western Front to atone for his mistakes, as WSC did after the Dardanelles.
 
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But Downing Street has insisted that Mr Blair's views have been misrepresented.
How can the Great Communicator be "misrepesented"?

"It has" - not much to misrepresent there!

If only he had said this to Humphries, Paxman or Snow. His half-hearted explanation would be forensically dissected - there was certainly no Al Qaeda or Iranian presence in Iraq prior to Spring 2003.
 
#19
The man has lied so much, for so long and to so many people that he actually believes himself. If you listen to what he says - it amounts to nothing, but uses plenty of the right "street" kinda language that a regular guy like Tony would use. I mean who would call a boy Tony - gay tossa!
 
#20
"It has, but you see what I say to people is why is it difficult in Iraq?
In the memorable words of Bill Clinton "It depends on what you mean by "it"

Lets face it they're all lying morons on both sides of the pond.
 

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