Black holes, atoms and egg-heads

#1
So the Large Hadron Collider thingy is going to be turned on tomorrow (Wednesday). Designed for the sole purpose of smashing one atom into another. But, scientists believe microscopic black holes might be generated in the machine (a new place for MDN to stick his member). But, the egg-heads behind this £5 billion train set say that it is safe and according to their predictions (guesses), they will blink in and out of existence before anything scary happens (like eat the earth from the inside?).

So, now that the end is upon us and we have less than 24 hours before we are sucked into a hole that not even light can escape and our atoms ripped apart in the event horizon and we are able to see every corner of the universe at the same time, what will you do with your final hours? What will your last words be?

So, standard doomsday looting procedure?
 
#2
Hole, schmole!
 
#3
Did hear a good explanation of this collider,some guy said it was like trying to see how a watch works by smashing two watches together and looking at the parts that fly off.

Final hours??? Not too sure but I do know a couple of people who would have very sore noses
 
#6
predatorplus said:
So the Large Hadron Collider thingy is going to be turned on tomorrow (Wednesday). Designed for the sole purpose of smashing one atom into another. But, scientists believe microscopic black holes might be generated in the machine (a new place for MDN to stick his member). But, the egg-heads behind this £5 billion train set say that it is safe and according to their predictions (guesses), they will blink in and out of existence before anything scary happens (like eat the earth from the inside?).

So, now that the end is upon us and we have less than 24 hours before we are sucked into a hole that not even light can escape and our atoms ripped apart in the event horizon and we are able to see every corner of the universe at the same time, what will you do with your final hours? What will your last words be?

So, standard doomsday looting procedure?
A small group of people, just like some claim that the moon landing was faked, Bush masterminded 9/11 or climate change is caused by humans. I'm willing to bet you a hundred thousand pounds the Earth doesn't become destroyed in a CERN-related incident (random accidents don't count :D ) this week.

Deal?
 
#7
It's actually going to take several months for the collider to reach full functionality. Bear in mind that any awry gravitiational related reaction would result in malfuntion of the machine anyway then a gravitational chain reaction would not be able to occur as the magnetic containment and the super cooled condensers necessary for the reaction would also fail shutting down the experiment.

Of course they could also kick start the new big bang and start the entire universe all over again but would that be a bad thing as God would then be the mad scientist from The Simpsons!

:D
 
#9
predatorplus said:
So the Large Hadron Collider thingy is going to be turned on tomorrow (Wednesday). Designed for the sole purpose of smashing one atom into another. But, scientists believe microscopic black holes might be generated in the machine (a new place for MDN to stick his member). But, the egg-heads behind this £5 billion train set say that it is safe and according to their predictions (guesses), they will blink in and out of existence before anything scary happens (like eat the earth from the inside?).

So, now that the end is upon us and we have less than 24 hours before we are sucked into a hole that not even light can escape and our atoms ripped apart in the event horizon and we are able to see every corner of the universe at the same time, what will you do with your final hours? What will your last words be?

So, standard doomsday looting procedure?
Smashing one atom into another? Are you sure?

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210600384

I thought it was subatomic particles they was going to smash.
 
#10
The_Cad said:
It's actually going to take several months for the collider to reach full functionality. Bear in mind that any awry gravitiational related reaction would result in malfuntion of the machine anyway then a gravitational chain reaction would not be able to occur as the magnetic containment and the super cooled condensers necessary for the reaction would also fail shutting down the experiment.

Of course they could also kick start the new big bang and start the entire universe all over again but would that be a bad thing as God would then be the mad scientist from The Simpsons!

:D
You sir, are using your brain too much on that comment. This is the NAAFI after all. I jsut about got away with the word atom.
 
#11
MSI64 said:
Did hear a good explanation of this collider,some guy said it was like trying to see how a watch works by smashing two watches together and looking at the parts that fly off.

Final hours??? Not too sure but I do know a couple of people who would have very sore noses
Very topical choice of words considering my last couple of hours. I think may have ticked off one of the sore noses for you.

Has any else ever found that pikeys, having partly colonised a train station car park, then run a little side business in demanding "considerations"* before they'll unblock your car?

Is this common? The place is infested with CCTV cameras and I'd have never thought they'd try anything on.

* Yeah, "a little consideration, sorr", the very phrase he used: I sh1t you not. Accent reminded me a lot of the locals at Ballykinler.
 

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#12
Its been on pretty much since it was first possible to turn it on. All they're doing tomorrow is accelerating a particle, it could be as many as 18 months before the first collision.

Anyway, back to the NAFFI, I'm glad Switzwerland is going first.. They never get involved in international conflict or humanitarian relief (or whatever), then get eaten by a black hole..
Karma's a bitch.
 
#13
predatorplus said:
The_Cad said:
It's actually going to take several months for the collider to reach full functionality. Bear in mind that any awry gravitiational related reaction would result in malfuntion of the machine anyway then a gravitational chain reaction would not be able to occur as the magnetic containment and the super cooled condensers necessary for the reaction would also fail shutting down the experiment.

Of course they could also kick start the new big bang and start the entire universe all over again but would that be a bad thing as God would then be the mad scientist from The Simpsons!

:D
You sir, are using your brain too much on that comment. This is the NAAFI after all. I jsut about got away with the word atom.
No you did not!
 
#14
I have just read this rather ominous conversation in Terry Pratchett's book "Thief Of Time" - it is between Death (who always speaks in capitals) and his Granddaughter, Susan:

"THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END.

'When?'

NEXT WEDNESDAY.

'Why'

I CANNOT SAY.

'I thought you could remember the future!'

YES. BUT SOMETHING HAS CHANGED. AFTER WEDNESDAY, THERE IS NO FUTURE.

'There must be something, even if it's only debris!'

NO. AFTER ONE O'CLOCK NEXT WEDNESDAY THERE IS NOTHING. JUST ONE O'CLOCK NEXT WEDNESDAY, FOR EVER AND EVER."


Roll on Thursday (I hope!).
 
#15
greg873 said:
I have just read this rather ominous conversation in Terry Pratchett's book "Thief Of Time" - it is between Death (who always speaks in capitals) and his Granddaughter, Susan:

THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END.

'When?'

NEXT WEDNESDAY.

'Why'

I CANNOT SAY.

'I thought you could remember the future!'

YES. BUT SOMETHING HAS CHANGED. AFTER WEDNESDAY, THERE IS NO FUTURE.

'There must be something, even if it's only debris!'

NO. AFTER ONE O'CLOCK NEXT WEDNESDAY THERE IS NOTHING. JUST ONE O'CLOCK NEXT WEDNESDAY, FOR EVER AND EVER.


Roll on Thursday (I hope!).
:worship:

That was funny.
 
#17
Ah, scientists, you've got to hand it to them, they've got guts. To quote Ian Dury, rest his soul "Einstein can't be classed as witless, He claimed atoms were the littlest. When you did a bit of splitttinus. Frightened everybody shtittless. Ain't arf been some clever barstewards, lucky bleeders, lucky bleeders...."
 
#18
Perturbed said:
predatorplus said:
So the Large Hadron Collider thingy is going to be turned on tomorrow (Wednesday). Designed for the sole purpose of smashing one atom into another. But, scientists believe microscopic black holes might be generated in the machine (a new place for MDN to stick his member). But, the egg-heads behind this £5 billion train set say that it is safe and according to their predictions (guesses), they will blink in and out of existence before anything scary happens (like eat the earth from the inside?).

So, now that the end is upon us and we have less than 24 hours before we are sucked into a hole that not even light can escape and our atoms ripped apart in the event horizon and we are able to see every corner of the universe at the same time, what will you do with your final hours? What will your last words be?

So, standard doomsday looting procedure?
Smashing one atom into another? Are you sure?

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210600384

I thought it was subatomic particles they was going to smash.
Firing atoms at each other at high speed would be a very BAD thing. Particularly if they were Uranium or Plutonium based! What the LHC, (Large Hadron Collider) actually does is fire two streams of protons (hadrons) in different direction around a 27 mile circuit, at 17,000 revolutions per second and then basically collide them inside a large detector.

Now heres the science. When the two streams colide they are hitting each other at the speed of light. The collision causes other sub-atomic particles to fly off. These particles are virtually harmless as they have little or no MASS, and thus cannot produce ENERGY in sufficient quantity to sustain a reaction.

(Einsteins theory of E=MC2, explains that ENERGY is equal to the MASS of an object times the speed of light squared). If an object has no MASS, then there will be no energy produced.


Now the bits that fly off are part of the Standard Model. There are 16 in total and are split into FERMIONS and BOSONS. Now, there is a specific BOSON which is not part of the Standard Model which has not been detected yet. The Higgs BOSON. It is predicted that when the other particles of the Standard Model pass through a theoretical "mesh" of Higgs particles, they gather MASS. This is what the LHC was designed to collect evidence of. It is likely that any detectable Higgs particles will gather so much mass that they will simply grow so big they will hit the edges of the detector and dissapate.

It is hypothesised that at the beggining of the universe, almost at the "B" of the Big Bang, the subatomic particles of the Standard Model, that go to comprise LIGHT, and thus no mass, passed through this "Mesh" of Higgs Particles, gathering sufficient MASS and thus producing ENERGY to form everything we see around us today. Groovy!
 
#19
DigitalGeek said:
Perturbed said:
predatorplus said:
So the Large Hadron Collider thingy is going to be turned on tomorrow (Wednesday). Designed for the sole purpose of smashing one atom into another. But, scientists believe microscopic black holes might be generated in the machine (a new place for MDN to stick his member). But, the egg-heads behind this £5 billion train set say that it is safe and according to their predictions (guesses), they will blink in and out of existence before anything scary happens (like eat the earth from the inside?).

So, now that the end is upon us and we have less than 24 hours before we are sucked into a hole that not even light can escape and our atoms ripped apart in the event horizon and we are able to see every corner of the universe at the same time, what will you do with your final hours? What will your last words be?

So, standard doomsday looting procedure?
Smashing one atom into another? Are you sure?

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210600384

I thought it was subatomic particles they was going to smash.
Firing atoms at each other at high speed would be a very BAD thing. Particularly if they were Uranium or Plutonium based! What the LHC, (Large Hadron Collider) actually does is fire two streams of protons (hadrons) in different direction around a 27 mile circuit, at 17,000 revolutions per second and then basically collide them inside a large detector.

Now heres the science. When the two streams colide they are hitting each other at the speed of light. The collision causes other sub-atomic particles to fly off. These particles are virtually harmless as they have little or no MASS, and thus cannot produce ENERGY in sufficient quantity to sustain a reaction.

(Einsteins theory of E=MC2, explains that ENERGY is equal to the MASS of an object times the speed of light squared). If an object has no MASS, then there will be no energy produced.


Now the bits that fly off are part of the Standard Model. There are 16 in total and are split into FERMIONS and BOSONS. Now, there is a specific BOSON which is not part of the Standard Model which has not been detected yet. The Higgs BOSON. It is predicted that when the other particles of the Standard Model pass through a theoretical "mesh" of Higgs particles, they gather MASS. This is what the LHC was designed to collect evidence of. It is likely that any detectable Higgs particles will gather so much mass that they will simply grow so big they will hit the edges of the detector and dissapate.

It is hypothesised that at the beggining of the universe, almost at the "B" of the Big Bang, the subatomic particles of the Standard Model, that go to comprise LIGHT, and thus no mass, passed through this "Mesh" of Higgs Particles, gathering sufficient MASS and thus producing ENERGY to form everything we see around us today. Groovy!
What is a Higgs particle? What do they do?
 

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