Black Christian Panzers roll back Islamic horde

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  1. Islamist Forces in Somalia Are on the Retreat

    NAIROBI, Kenya, Dec. 26 — Islamist forces in Somalia beat a hasty retreat today to their stronghold in Mogadishu, Somalia’s battle-scared capital, crumbling faster than anyone expected after a week of attacks by Ethiopian forces.

    Burhakaba, a large inland city, fell first, followed by Dinsoor, not far away, and then Bulo Burto, where just a few weeks ago the Islamists in charge were threatening to behead people who did not pray.

    The Islamist fighters, who had seemed invincible after taking Mogadishu in June, now seem powerless to stop the steady advance of the Ethiopian-backed forces of the transitional government.

    By this afternoon, the transitional government troops were within 60 miles of Mogadishu and calling for the Islamists to surrender. The Islamist leaders refused, saying they would take their fight “everywhere,” which some people viewed as a veiled threat to expand the guerilla tactics and suicide bombs they have already used.

    The fast-moving developments seem to confirm what United Nations officials and witnesses in Somalia have been saying since the fighting erupted a week ago: that the young forces of the Islamists, however religiously inspired, were no match for the better trained, better equipped Ethiopian-backed troops who have tanks and fighter jets.

    Still, the conflict is hardly over. Thousands of people continue to march in the streets of Mogadishu, rallying behind the Islamists, and analysts are unanimous that an Ethiopian occupation of Mogadishu, a city thick with weapons and xenophobia, could become a bloodbath.

    In Baidoa, the seat of the transitional government, top leaders said they were planning on taking the capital.

    “We feel great,” said Hussein Saylan, chief of the transitional cabinet, on Tuesday. He spoke by telephone from a command center where radios crackled in the background. “We’re moving swiftly toward Mogadishu, and the Islamists are panicking. We’re finishing them off as we go.”

    Witnesses reported that Ethiopian fighter jets and helicopter gunships were firing missiles at the retreating Islamist pickup trucks, easy targets in the open desert.

    In Mogadishu, the Islamists began fortifying the airport, radio station and other key buildings, preparing for a siege.

    Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, a top Islamist leader and one who used to be considered a moderate, vowed at a press conference that the Islamists would never buckle.

    “The war is entering a new phase,” he said. “We will fight Ethiopia for a long, long time, and we expect the war to go everywhere.”

    Though diplomats in the region have expressed concerns about this conflict turning Somalia, already a very poor, neglected country, into a humanitarian disaster, there has been noticeable silence about Ethiopia’s aggressive tactics.

    Patrick Mazimhaka, a high-ranking African Union official, told the BBC that Ethiopia was within its rights to strike.

    “It is up to every country to judge the measure of the threat to its own sovereignty,” Mr. Mazimhaka said. American officials have given Ethiopia, one of their closest allies in Africa, tacit approval to stamp out the Islamists, who American intelligence agents have accused of sheltering Al Qaeda terrorists.

    On Tuesday, there were reports that American surveillance planes were spotted in the skies above Somalia and may be funneling battlefield intelligence to Ethiopian forces.

    There are more than 100 American soldiers in Ethiopia helping train Ethiopia troops. But Major Thibodeau said “Officially, we haven’t put anybody in Somalia. The Americans don’t go forward with the Ethiopians. They are training Ethiopians in Ethiopia.”

    As the situation in Somalia began to shift, it seemed that the Islamists may have overplayed their hand. Just a few months ago they were the most powerful force in the country and popular in many areas for restoring order after 15 years of anarchy. The transitional government, which is internationally recognized but weak and divided, was urging the Islamists to return to peace talks to discuss sharing power.

    But all that changed last Wednesday at dawn when the Islamists attacked Baidoa from two directions. Witnesses said that their waves of young fighters were summarily mowed down by the more experienced (and older) Ethiopian-backed troops. On Saturday, the Islamists announced that Somalia was now open to Muslim fighters across the world who wanted to wage a jihad against Ethiopia, which has a long Christian history.

    The next day, Ethiopia struck.

    With warplanes and tanks, the Ethiopian military pushed deep into Somalia and began uprooting the Islamists from their positions. Meles Zenawi, Ethiopia’s prime minister, said his country had been forced into war by the Islamists and that Ethiopia would try to neutralize the threat as quickly as possible.

    The toll is rising in Mogadishu. At Benadir hospital, crowds of women pushed at the gates to get inside to see their wounded sons and husbands. Witnesses said the hospital’s courtyards were stacked with dozens of corpses buzzing with flies. Some of the women even threw stones at the Islamist commanders visiting the hospital and shouted, “Why have you done this to us?”

    Yussuf Maxamuud and Mohammed Ibrahim contributed reporting from Mogadishu.

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  2. Great thread title
  3. I will say one thing, these lot will not be pussyfooting round like UN peacekeepers or American forces, they will shoot a LOT if you upset them big time, No "what about me Human rights" or sueing them for compo, the Ethiopians will just laugh at them and tell them to fuuck off to high port , no chance of any Ethiopian soldier being presecuted by their own lawyers.

    sometimes our enemies don't know how lucky they are with us :evil:
  4. Way back in BAOR we had an Ethiopian Captain from their Armoured Corps attached to us for a while, God knows why. Anyway he came out on Ex with us down to the IGB, did the usual posey bit for the benefit of the KGB-he had cap badge like a gazelle ( anttelope type thingy ) crossed with ??
    Certainly appeared to cause a bit of a ruck with the Ossis.
    Any cap badge spotters out there ?
  5. Surprise, surprise. All happy to live in utopian bliss(ish) until it all goes Pete Tong. After that the blame lies with any one else but themselves. Human Nature.

  6. Many thanks, I am rather pleased with it myself.

    Meanwhile -

    Ethiopians Closing In On Capital of Somalia

    Ethiopian troops fought their way closer to the Somali capital of Mogadishu on Tuesday, pushing back militias loyal to the Islamic Courts movement that has until now controlled much of the country and has vowed to wage a guerrilla war against Ethiopia lasting "years and years and years."

    At a news conference in Addis Ababa, Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi said that he had no plans to push into Mogadishu but that the campaign was only half-completed. The only option now, he added, was to win.

    He said that he was pleased at how swiftly the campaign had gone and that 3,000 to 4,000 Ethiopian troops had "broken the back" of the Islamic Courts movement, which he has repeatedly accused of supporting secessionist groups in Ethiopia.

    On Tuesday, Islamic Courts leader Sharif Ahmed again condemned the international community for failing to stop the Ethiopian attack, which is widely perceived to have U.S. support, and he said the war had "entered a new phase."

    Witnesses said fighters from Eritrea, a bitter foe of Ethiopia, as well as from Pakistan were among those fighting alongside the Islamic militia

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  7. Wonder how much the US is paying to fund this little Ethopian excursion?
    It's quite amusing to see how much oil security really does drive American foreign policy!
  8. This is one of the reasons we should be investing more into the African Nations; showing them support.
  9. Yes, because propping up a regime like Saudi Arabia is so in our best interests.
  10. Ethiopia has a pretty serious army, but I do wonder what happens after they do the "Alan Cunningham Memorial Concours d'Elegance" in the centre of Mogadishu. TFG installed, out in weeks, back home, tea & medals? Shit and bricks urban battle? Political solution doesn't stick, jihadis arrive, Ethiopians turn to page 234 in the "Big Soviet Guide to Counterinsurgency with the 125mm Main Gun" - like a low budget remake of Iraq?
  11. Mr Happy

    Mr Happy LE Moderator

    Frankly I'm quite pleased that all that money raised by the long haired paddy and other trendy rock musicians has been used to prop up the Ethiopians and allow their armed forces to recover from the 80's civil war (oh year, and the famine) and now they're out kicking two shades of shit out of a bunch of gorilla hate-preaching butchers.

    Excellent. Well worth my five quid to live aid when I was a student!
  12. Surely some thanks in line to KGB Rez and friends for all the kit. I remember Ryszard Kapuzcinski writing about Ethiopia just after ol'Mengistu got the order of the boot - huge parks of brand-new Soviet armour, Hinds, arty left for miles outside Addis Abeba after the biggest army in Africa just went home.

    Be a pity to let it all rust.
  13. Oh, Ethiopian rulers are cheap.

    Bearing in mind events that happened 33 years ago it would be logical to expect that our American friends would try to find a new foothold quite near oil reserves. Iraq will be abandoned later or sooner. It is a question of time. Regimes in the Gulf countries are too unstable and even they could demand withdrawal of American forces (as Saudi Arabia did). Turkey is not under full American influence and Israel... Yes Israel is a true ally but American military bases in Israel... Unlikely it will happen for many reasons.

    Somalia is indeed an almost ideal place - big enough country for military bases and it is a possible object of new experiments with 'true democracy'.
  14. Couldn't agree more :D :D
  15. Wonder how much money Saudi is spending or LIbya ?