Binning CS95s

#1
I've heard a fair few rumours about the Army binning CS95s for day to day use and returning to barrack dress or lightweights. Any truth to these rumours? I know this is already happeneing in quite a lot of places, but not officially. Personally I'd love to see the return of OGs for barrack wear and leave the special IRR and whatever stuff for use in the field. So is this just another rumour, or is it happening? Not that this affects me now, being all of 16 years old, but in the future when I (possibly) join up, it will. Cheers.
 
#2
and the do i join or not join dilemas includes what gear will i get to wear???
sitting here shaking my head........... ballix!
 
#3
I'm not sure about this but OG 95 pattern dress may have been proposed. The eppaulettes may return to the shoulders and jumpers will be worn again?

Not complete scrapping, but additional clothing for work/indoor environment.
 
#5
and the do i join or not join dilemas includes what gear will i get to wear???
At no point did I ever suggest that. I've already 'got the gear' (being a cadet), if all I was interested in was the kit I could just buy it all and spend my life wandering around military shows weating it like a sad walt. But I'd rather not.
 
#6
Funny - i heard last week that CS95 kit was being dropped and a return to (if not updated) Barrack Dress and Working Dress.

Jolly good show!

Rincewind
 

Gook

Old-Salt
#8
Hmm isn't "barrack dress" with the bottle green plastic trousers that go shiny after awhile, like the RAF have? And working dress is with the lightweights? If so then it should definitely be working dress resurrected, like the current RN seagoing rig.

Being TA and only getting 2 sets of shirts and trousers and 1 jacket, 1 pr of boots issued, its annoying after being on exercise when you then get into camp and have nothing clean to put on. Having to duck around in dirty kit trying to not get caught, whilst you wait for only 1 suit to get back to you from the laundry. Not an issue on the average weekend but on annual camp or a course or something else that goes on for awhile, you just end up ruining your "best" set in the field and then stuck in scruff order in camp!

I don't know if its different with regs getting issued more suits so they can divvy them up between field and camp use, but even if you do, as the 95s for camp use arent taken in the field why not working dress instead? Cheaper, smarter and you might just keep the IRR dyes in your field clothing!
 
#9
FADs (Future Army Dress) has new No2 dress and a new barrack dress (OG with a blouson waterproof Jkt)

As part of FADs OP Pegasus will replace No 8 dress (CS95) with a digital camouflage combat suit (with hood)

I’ve seen the No 2 Dress it’s awful, I haven’t seen any of the others

The No 2 dress is issued Pte to 1* so no more Officers buying SD

Its deployment has just been delayed due to supply issues

No visibility on the Combat dress yet but I believe some Btn are trialling it
 
#10
Digital camouflage? Does that mean we have to get rid of any DPM 'gucci kit'? Or indeed ANYTHING we have now (as no one has got this new cam yet)?
 
#13
I see the new 'Barrack Dress' in DMSTC is lightweight Trousers (Minus Map Pocket), no Twisters, No 2 shirt and Tie, Wolly Pully Jumper. But then again i'm not sure if thats because its a training establishment.
 
#14
not_a_real_soldier said:
I've heard a fair few rumours about the Army binning CS95s for day to day use and returning to barrack dress or lightweights. Any truth to these rumours? I know this is already happeneing in quite a lot of places, but not officially. Personally I'd love to see the return of OGs for barrack wear and leave the special IRR and whatever stuff for use in the field. So is this just another rumour, or is it happening? Not that this affects me now, being all of 16 years old, but in the future when I (possibly) join up, it will. Cheers.
Right, why would you love to see the return of lightweights? Working dress, if you did any work in them they would stain very easily and would crease if you looked at them. Working on any sort of vehicles even with covvies on resulted in oil/grease/coolant stains which stood out and are impossible to get rid of. It was just as hard trying to exchange lightweights as it is 95 kit before anybody goes down that path. OGs were a pain in the arrse and I, along with pretty much everybody else in my Sqn, were very happy when 95 became standard working dress. Rant over.

As a replacement for 95 kit I think tropics are a viable option. Hard wearing, durable and smart. When on tour/exercise I always wear these and I've never managed to trash a set, even after 3 back to back tours (Afghanistan, Canada,Kosovo) and two tours before that. I'm not some clerk who sits in an office all day either, I was out on site pretty much every day.

Where is that training regt you are on about? Lightweights with out twisters etc? That sound either like a medical place or somewhere with lots of cav or arty officers!!
 
#15
plant_life said:
Where is that training regt you are on about? Lightweights with out twisters etc? That sound either like a medical place or somewhere with lots of cav or arty officers!!
Defence Medical Services Training Centre (DMSTC) @ Keogh Barracks
 
#16
Gook said:
Hmm isn't "barrack dress" with the bottle green plastic trousers that go shiny after awhile, like the RAF have? And working dress is with the lightweights? If so then it should definitely be working dress resurrected, like the current RN seagoing rig.
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New barrack dress is just the denims (less pockets) with No.2 shirt, tie etc all remaining the same. The dark green shiny barrack dress trousers are no longer on issue as of last year.

I also caught wind of this new working dress coming out. Anyone got any pics of any of the new kit yet (No.2s etc)?
 
#17
Stuff it, I'm more interested to see the new digi cam stuff, are we going to have seperate temperate and desert patterns or one of these all in one jobbies? The point about 95 pattern kit is a good one also, when you think of the abundance of kit in 95 pattern, would they scrap it all? It's going to be a long slow process isn't it.
 
#18
plant_life said:
I'm not some clerk who sits in an office all day either, I was out on site pretty much every day.
same here. stuff having lightweights etc for 'barrack use' and combats for 'field use'.

most days I tip up at work expecting nothing spectactular and end up outdoors on site covered in shiite, or in a hangar doing a jobs, or something equally messy. the clerks, medics et al can have lightweights for office work, I'd rather not have to go back to my room and change just so I could go outside and do my job.
 
#19
If you want to make a seperation between Comabt and Support units then bring back the old working dress - but personally I would rather they invested the cash in refining the CS95 which as a working and field dress is not that bad with a dress for formal Parades to replace NO2's and barrack dress for less formal or office based work. But lets be realistic and not sp@nk the cash - use it wisely.
Any change will take years to go through just look at CS95/ 2000 just getting some uniformity in the Army and they go and change things RSM's will have a fit for any type of parade :)
 
#20
plant_life said:
Lightweights with out twisters etc? That sound either like a medical place or somewhere with lots of cav or arty officers!!
And what's wrong with lightweights without twisters may I ask?

With SD Hat (or even Side Hat) and Blue Pully one looks very dapper! :D
 

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