BFPO Postal System

#1
Not sure if this has been covered but could someone please explain why the postal system to BFG is appalling. For example a small package posted on the 4 Dec 07 arrived on the 7 Jan 08. Yet if you order an item from Amazon whilst serving in Iraq it arrives within three days. Is someone saying that it is quicker to post mail to Iraq than it is to post mail to BFG. Or is this another case of the Services being treated like second class citizens. Or worse still the system is shite and we are employing clowns (civvies) to deliver our mail.

Fed up waiting for my mail in BFG.
 
#2
Can I apologise for the above poster.

I will now take him away and place him back in the AGC Forum where he belongs.

Bless Him. He's got all his own teeth you know!
 
#3
Heedthebaw said:
Can I apologise for the above poster.

I will now take him away and place him back in the AGC Forum where he belongs.

Bless Him. He's got all his own teeth you know!
Can a man not ask a serious question without being mugged off, are you following me HTB
 
#4
This was actually a genuine question that i thought someone in this forum would be able to answer, not intended to offend i was curious as to why it took so long that was all.
 
#5
So am I, package despatched according to the sender on the 14th Dec arrived in Belgium 9 Jan, and am still waiting for a book despatched by Waterstone's on the 7 Dec, whilst school bills manage to make it in only a couple of days using the Belgian postal system that does not have a good reputation.

So does anyone know of a good reason for the slow service via BFPO?, heard somthing about Mill Hill being relocated (the facility not the place) any posties know anything.
 
#6
I usually have to put in NW7 1PX (Mill Hill postcode) into internet shopping sites if they don't recognise the BFPO number..... if BFPO has moved (RAF Northolt I believe) does anyone know the new postcode?
 
#8
To sum it up, BFPO London was stiffed by the Royal Mail initiative of free parcels for Forces on ops. Allow me to explain.

With such late notice of the scheme's implementation, everybody obviously rushed to the post offices at once to get some parcels sent out to the lads. (I have it on good authority that there were actually more goodwill parcels sent out to the troops than there were actually troops on the ground.) The sorting office, which is a few thousand square feet of space, was so full of mail trolleys it was nigh impossible to walk.

The sheer mass of incoming mail unfortunately coincided with a drawn out and highly complicated move to Northolt, which had been earmarked for August originally but was hit by delays and staff shortages, meaning the move fell closer to Christmas than had been hoped.

Having said all this, even if Royal Mail had left the previous free parcel scheme in place, there would still have been mail delays, albeit not as bad as it was.

From what I saw it was an extremely difficult place to work at the time, there was mail all over the shot and it seemed impossible to see which mail had been there the longest. This would explain why some parcels arrive quicker than others.

Needforspeed, if you want serious answers, try asking serious questions, preferably without using terms such as 'shite system', 'second class citizens' and 'clowns'. As for your mail, it'll get there when it gets there.
 
#9
skintboymike said:
To sum it up, BFPO London was stiffed by the Royal Mail initiative of free parcels for Forces on ops. Allow me to explain.

With such late notice of the scheme's implementation, everybody obviously rushed to the post offices at once to get some parcels sent out to the lads. (I have it on good authority that there were actually more goodwill parcels sent out to the troops than there were actually troops on the ground.) The sorting office, which is a few thousand square feet of space, was so full of mail trolleys it was nigh impossible to walk.

The sheer mass of incoming mail unfortunately coincided with a drawn out and highly complicated move to Northolt, which had been earmarked for August originally but was hit by delays and staff shortages, meaning the move fell closer to Christmas than had been hoped.

Having said all this, even if Royal Mail had left the previous free parcel scheme in place, there would still have been mail delays, albeit not as bad as it was.

From what I saw it was an extremely difficult place to work at the time, there was mail all over the shot and it seemed impossible to see which mail had been there the longest. This would explain why some parcels arrive quicker than others.

Needforspeed, if you want serious answers, try asking serious questions, preferably without using terms such as 'shite system', 'second class citizens' and 'clowns'. As for your mail, it'll get there when it gets there.
Apologies but you have to admitt that it can be annoying. Particularly when you order from next for example the goods never arrive and are then shown as a credit on your next bill as having been returned, when they never even reached the recipient. If i have offended anyone with my comments (shite/clowns for example) then i apologise i just feel like we are treated like second class citizens. Yes i know we all have a job to do with little or no resources and are just expected to get on with it, but where do we draw the line, mail is very important especially over the festive period for both those on ops and those left behind.
 
#11
06FA56Paderborn said:
Thank you , if it was because of parcels for troops on ops I can wait a bit for my books, and will just have to catch up with the OU work, tis a small price for me to pay.
Yes it is a small price to pay, i do appreciate that the troops in Iraq and Afghan should take priority but if we are short staffed should we not employ more.

I did hear that the contract for transporting the mail to BFG was given to the Polish, whose lorries keep breaking down in Europe. If that is the case should we not rethink the contract.
 
#12
needforspeed said:
06FA56Paderborn said:
Thank you , if it was because of parcels for troops on ops I can wait a bit for my books, and will just have to catch up with the OU work, tis a small price for me to pay.
Yes it is a small price to pay, i do appreciate that the troops in Iraq and Afghan should take priority but if we are short staffed should we not employ more.

I did hear that the contract for transporting the mail to BFG was given to the Polish, whose lorries keep breaking down in Europe.
If that is the case should we not rethink the contract.
Not sure about that one.

Another possible reason for late mail will be the sheer amount of orders that Next, Amazon, etc have had in the Christmas build up. It may have been a couple of weeks before your order even left the warehouse, but we can only speculate.
 
#13
It's not Mill Hill who are the problem (in my experience) it's the bods who collect it at this end. Stacking all the post up, taking the top layers, chucking more on top, taking the top layers (ad infinitum) leaving 2 month old post at the bottom of the pile languishing in a puddle of water. It can't be that hard to engage a modicum of common sense. Or can it?
 
#14
skintboymike said:
needforspeed said:
06FA56Paderborn said:
Thank you , if it was because of parcels for troops on ops I can wait a bit for my books, and will just have to catch up with the OU work, tis a small price for me to pay.
Yes it is a small price to pay, i do appreciate that the troops in Iraq and Afghan should take priority but if we are short staffed should we not employ more.

I did hear that the contract for transporting the mail to BFG was given to the Polish, whose lorries keep breaking down in Europe.
If that is the case should we not rethink the contract.
Not sure about that one.

Another possible reason for late mail will be the sheer amount of orders that Next, Amazon, etc have had in the Christmas build up. It may have been a couple of weeks before your order even left the warehouse, but we can only speculate.
Sorry but it happens all the time not just during busy periods like Xmas. The annoying thing is that once it is returned you can never get it again as they have sold out. I do not suppose that i will get an answer so thank you for your advice and the explanation about Mill Hill moving.

If the sorters are not rotating the mail then someone i am afraid needs to get a grip of them. Or alternatively they could sort all the mail, then when the new lot comes in the cages are empty. Just a thought.

Again thank you and apologies if i offended with my earlier comments.
 
#15
[/quote]If the sorters are not rotating the mail then someone i am afraid needs to get a grip of them. Or alternatively they could sort all the mail, then when the new lot comes in the cages are empty. Just a thought.

Again thank you and apologies if i offended with my earlier comments.[/quote]

You'd think so wouldn't you?!
 
#16
Just a small point, does anyone actually read the Royal mail's latest posting dates for Xmas mail. The lead time is fairly long and if yuo're ordering stuff from mail order houses that are themselves at full gallop with Xmas orders perhaps you should be ordering earlier. Mail in the pipeline does not become BFPO mail until it reaches MillHill/Northolt so gets no better or worse treatment than any other.
 
#17
Companys such as play.com send you a notification of when your order is despatched, (I had some in Dec, but still not here), so i don't swallow the delay at source line. Bottom line is, wheres my ferkin mail??? And before you start harping on that I'm out of order, if you broke down in a rover and it took 4 weeks for someone with my capbadge to come and fix you then you would slate us, and rightly so!
 
#18
I must have been a great idea to move from Mill Hill to Northholt during the busiest time of the year...also

I did hear that the civies who work in Mill Hill, who took the move to Northholt walked out once they saw the building.... so that can't help?

"It's not Mill Hill who are the problem (in my experience) it's the bods who collect it at this end. Stacking all the post up, taking the top layers, chucking more on top, taking the top layers (ad infinitum) leaving 2 month old post at the bottom of the pile languishing in a puddle of water. It can't be that hard to engage a modicum of common sense. Or can it?"

Not sure on this one... are you a postie? as you say in your experience? As for common sense there civies.
 
#19
Yes a civvie but married accompanied and most definitely not a postie! I'm only begging for Heat magazine once a week. But its a lottery which week I'll get it. This week I got three and one was a two week into one thingy. The eldest had been languishing in snow. Nice! Granted, it's not the FT, however, it's important to me, well not really, but in some sort of insignificant way. Well, it's something to beat the husband over the head with!!! Oh and shall I!!

Oh, and second to Heat Magazine, I got 3, yes 3, premium bonds cheques in a oner. One of which was well over the 3 month limit. Cheers Mr Posty Distributor!
 
#20
A few guys from our department were asked to go through to the sorting office yesterday to clear more of the backlog, so it would seem the main problem is at Northolt.

As for your glib quote, two four albert - I think if 400 rovers broke down in different places all over Iraq at the same time, and you alone were tasked with recovery, something tells me you'd fall on your arrse too. All your quote proves is that you have more easily achievable goals in your job. Or not enough work, whichever way you look at it.

Have a bit of patience.
 
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