Thanks for your comments. They will also be noted.
Thanks for your comments. They will also be noted.
Plant-Pilot said:Firstly to agoodgrouping, nobody is asking them to be 'all things to all men', that of course would be impossible. However BFBS2 did, up until recently give an alternative to the chart oriented BFBS1. What is now available is more or less the same content on two different frequencies one of which has a very very limited coverage. A choice of more than one is not a lot to ask.
Plant Pilot, mate I canât agree that the content is the same on the two frequencies â see my chart below. I am not sure which alteration to the BFBS 2 schedules you are taking issue with. It has changed many times over the years and I assume that it is the changes from last week (20 Apr). A few months ago we lost many of the programmes they commissioned themselves (BFBS Reports or something on a Sunday â ironing time !) and ones taken from the BBC (Archers Omnibus etc). However, listening to the new schedule this week so far I canât see that too much has changed anyway â not enough for me to get a lather on about. OK, the signal is good in JHQ (it peters out 2 clicks past Elmpt) but I know that BFBS have tried their best to get better reception throughout Germany & the local Govts just wonât wear it â there are only so many frequencies avail.
I still get almost everything I like and I got before 20 Apr so what is the fuss about ? â bit of music for about 4 hours a day or the presenters â that is personal taste ( I confess that I cannot STAND Moyles and would break my radio and learn to yodel if I was washed up on a Desert Island with only his show on offer).
We still start the day with Today, we still get W@1 (and that was a pleasant surprise because we didnât get that until a few months ago) we still get PM, we still get 6 oâ Clock News, we still get Sitrep, we still then get news/sport through the night. At weekends I am never up early enough for Classics anyway but I get the Grand Prix and Sport throughout the afternoon. So what have I lost ? Gold in a weekday morning â well I am at work anyway and as most of the Army were born after those songs were released, they should have their own tastes catered for as I am for much of the rest of the time. Glenn Mansell in the afternoon, well I said before I thought that a mistake because he was good at tackling G1 issues (could have just given him a newer playlist) but Iâm at work then anyway. So what are you hankering after â a return to Just a Minute, the Tommy Vance Rock Show, Country & Western, Raven & the Blues, Rockola, Roddiganâs Rockers, Richard Allison etc â they cost money to make & there is less of it about â not due to DAB but due to the every lengthening list of places we now work in. And, if they were to return, what would be lost in their place ? Hopefully not 5 Live because most soldiers on stag want football & the BBC donât give live feed overseas of football on the net.
Perhaps we should conduct our own customer survey on here, I would be intrigued to see what the contributors on this forum want themselves â I am confident that noone will have a schedule to please everyone. For what it's worth, hereâs mine (all times CET)â
TIME WEEKDAY WEEKEND
0000 AS NOW â 5 LIVE
0700 AS NOW â TODAY AS NOW â 5 LIVE
0800 AS NOW â TODAY
1100 Not bothered really Jonathan Ross(Sat)â not sure if Feed from R2 is free ? *
1400 AS NOW âW@1 WTWKend (Sun)
1500 GLEN MANSELL AS NOW - 5 LIVE
1800 AS NOW â PM
1900 AS NOW -6 O CLOCK NEWS
2000 AS NOW â 5 LIVE
*You donât have any more money to spend than you have now to commission your own programmes. DAB is funded by SSVC so it is an optional extra for UK, we have lost nothing & troops in UK have gained).
Herrumph said:Proposals for inclusion on a grown up BFBS2:
Any Quesions, Any Answers - both of which need not be transmitted live. PM's questions, edited highlights of Defence Questions/debate.
R4 Comedy. Chose from The Now Show, Just a Minute, The News Quiz, there is a good stand-up show (name escapes me) Old Nick's Game and many others normally on straight after 6 o'clock news. Good light relief before 5 Live kicks in. There is seldom any live sport until 7pm UK time, just commentators and speculation on what is to come.
Much as it bores me to tears - The Archers. Worth 10 minutes to send the oldies off to sleep.
Jonathen Woss on Sat morning - good entertainment, music and guests. Establish a regular weekly link to the UK. Why not a weekend link up with each of the regions BBC Scotland/Wales/NI? - local radio are desperate to widen their audiences.
I know BBC expect payment but if cost is too much then it is high-time that they were challenged. They are a public service and I'm sure if the outrage bus was fired up they (the BBC or their political masters) could be made to see reason.
Herrumph said:Sorry agoodgrouping - couldn't get download to work. My age probably rather than your best efforts.
Comedy after 6 o'clock news before main sport kicks in. Not all days perhaps SITREP one day or big game if it is starting earlier than 7pm UK time.
PMQs live to break up pop-tastic light entertainment in the afternoon.
Jonathen Ross - same time as in UK Saturday morning - not many big games kick-off mid-day. Link with local radio - before JR but after Today programme.
Any questions/answers interspaced with Archers omnibus, token religious prog, repeat of SITREP etc on Sunday morning before 5 live Sport.
Re-runs of "I'm Sorry ..." could be played anytime in preference of the endless wittering about dubious referee's decisions/chances we missed/what the pies were like at the ground etc that we couldn't see anyway. I'm all in favour of 5Live so we can follow the sport but once the sport is over the chat and phone-ins are of limited interest to anyone surely?
That's Herrumph by the way - as in the noise one makes accompanied by rustling of the broadsheets when the subbies want orange squash served with their afternoon toast.
Plant-Pilot said:It's all gone quiet again.... is that because....
a) BFBS is great and there are no complaints?
b) Nobody is complaining because they don't listen anyway?
c) Like me, nobody bothers listening any more?
Legs said:While I was in hospital in Thailand last month I listened on-line. Not terribly impressed with the amateur feel of it at all.
dumbstruck said:Legs said:While I was in hospital in Thailand last month I listened on-line. Not terribly impressed with the amateur feel of it at all.
What do you expect ! when BFBS cannot be bothered (due to costs) to give a decent 2nd option to the older listeners in the forces. If the DJ's that they employ were any good at there jobs I'm sure that they would be employed somewhere else and not with BFBS. Also I remember listening to BFBS radio in the 80's & 90's when only one service was given and it had a mix of everything to suit all tastes and everyone was happy. As soon as it is 10:00hrs I turn my radio onto a German station, can't understand what they are saying but at least they play decent music that I can listen to and not just the latest X FACTOR winner whinning to a nameless tune. This has probably be said in the previous threads but I cannot be bothered to read through them all. Rant over.