Beware the Apple

#1
big brother is watching!

Woman who drove with apple in her hand feels full force of law

A NURSERY nurse stopped by a traffic policeman because she was holding an apple was subjected to a "nonsensical" prosecution in which aerial photographs, a video shot from a police aircraft and a film recording from a patrol car were used to prove her guilt.

Full article: http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=91912005
 
#2
Nice to see a proportionate response!!!

Whilst there may be some genuine 'not in control' issues this really is overkill.

Note to self: Stop eating apples whilst driving (something I do quite frequently!!).
 
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#3
The only thing to add to this is that it's probably a good thing she didn't scratch her ear with a table leg during the pursuit, otherwise half the population of Scotland would still be picking bits of her out of their hair.
 
#4
This whole idea smacks of easy target again. It's too difficult to actually investigate real crimes so they clobber somebody for something stupid not to mention it adds to the targets and the Forces coffers with a nice fixed-penalty ticket.

I'd say that eating an apple was not dangerous. If it is then we need to design new cars to have automatic gearboxes, do away with radios and have some sort of sensors to kill the engine if you take your hands off the wheel. While we're at it, build in HUDs, criminalise overtaking and eliminate multilane roads so that you don't have to take your eyes off the road in front to check your mirrors!
 
#5
the only reason that they are doing this is becuase she had the balls to stand up and say that the police were wrong!

Now they can't be proven wrong, can they? that would just throw the world upside down if the rozzers were shown to be WRONG for once in their lives.

Big man picking on small woman for easy target.Sick :evil:
 
#6
MikeMcc said:
I'd say that eating an apple was not dangerous. If it is then we need to design new cars to have automatic gearboxes
Two thoughts. First was, at the time they stopped her, they thought she was using a phone. Nasty cynical old me thinks that the "apple" thing might have been her excuse....

"Phone? Me? Never, officer, it was an apple, honest....."

...without realising that it still left her in the poo.

"Apple it may be, you're still displaying undue attention".

The second thing is that they didn't stop her until she turned a corner. Which means that she changed down a gear while, errr, "eating her apple". So, it wasn't the driving bit, it was the "doing something complicated" bit. Yes, we've all eaten or drank from a can, but we generally put them down before we try to turn a corner.

Call me a bluff old traditionalist, but driving a ton of metal at 20 or 30 mph in a built-up area, with at most one, and at worst neither, hand on the steering wheel? Potentially lethal.

Given the number of tossers I see driving around with mobile clamped to ear, I'm all for it. Prosecute more of the, er, "apple eaters".

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#7
Gravelbelly said:
Given the number of tossers I see driving around with mobile clamped to ear, I'm all for it. Prosecute more of the, er, "apple eaters".
At £10k a punt?
 
#8
I regularly drive with one hand on the wheel and the other ready to hold it, change gear, etc. I am comfortable with the positon I use and don't consider it any more dangerous than any other. I still feel that the money used to prosecute this woman was not in the public interest. I'm aware of the issue of mobile phones and agree that they're dangerous (I don't even own one as I don't like the idea of brain tumours nor being hounded by the question 'where are you?'). This was just petty minded officialdom gone mad.
 
#9
I regularly drive using only 1 hand and one foot... but then I drive an automatic with power steering........
 
#10
I got a speeding ticket for doing 90mph on an empty motorway at 6 in the morning.

it was for my own safety apparently

never mind the fact that the copper must have been doing 110 minimum to have caught up with me ( I was miles past the last junction and before I knew it he was in my mirror)

turned out he was an ex tankie aswell. did he cut a fellow soldier some slack? did he ****
 
#11
Those folks driving with cell phones and apples ARE dangerous.

At least I have a screw sticking out of the dash to hang my CB Mic onto.
And tossing the beer cans back into my pickup bed IS easier if my left hand is free...I hate to see them bouncing on the road.
(Ya see I'm a 'good ole boy' and NOT a 'redneck')
Besides...I can't shoot straight driving with my knee on the wheel anymore as the old truck pulls to the right with the firestones getting slick and all...well I'm still good shooting 'lefty' with my handguns...but aiming my rifles dead-on IS tough...that's why I'm switching to my 12-gauge shot-guns. The bigger pattern allows for 'drift' errors.

Somebody really ought to do something about cell phones and apples though.

:?
 
#12
She went round the corner with one hand on the steering wheel she got caught she got a fine . Tough the rest is just bluster .
 
#13
The silly girl should have smoked a cigarette instead :?

Surely you can put half your hand on the wheel whilst holding an apple, and move the gear stick... just as you can do it with a cigarette, and I don't see anyone being stopped for smoking yet.

Should smoking in cars be illegal!?!
 
#14
Easier to hold a fag in your mouth and free both hands than an apple, and you can hold it there for longer.

She should have just paid the 30 spots. She wound up paying 160 (I think, can't be bothered going back to read it). Granted they may have been a bit over the top, but it's only 30 quid and it's their call. I don't think the bobbies did anything wrong, just their job, she should have just shut up and paid. The problem is folk who think they know best, not the police being over keen.
 
#15
A_team_lewis said:
Easier to hold a fag in your mouth and free both hands than an apple, and you can hold it there for longer.

She should have just paid the 30 spots. She wound up paying 160 (I think, can't be bothered going back to read it). Granted they may have been a bit over the top, but it's only 30 quid and it's their call. I don't think the bobbies did anything wrong, just their job, she should have just shut up and paid. The problem is folk who think they know best, not the police being over keen.
Being a reformed smoker an' all....I can safely say that you can't see for long if hanging a bifta out of your gob once the smoke starts drifting into your eyes. An apple however just gives you jaw-ache after a while of holding it in your teeth.

It was a £60 fine I believe, but the issue was the resources that were wasted just taking it to court. The Helicopter tasking (of course it just happened to be in the area so the CPS asked for an aerial photo to illustrate the dangerous bends that the nursery nurse would have had to negotiate while holding an apple) was quite obscene. This is a prime example of the police (and not all are like this...I know having had my MOD90 "accidentally" falling out of my driving licence wallet when stopped once) not having the intellegence to issue a ticking off to the girl. (The MOD90 thing is always better augmented by your FMT 600 being wrapped around the licence (or counterpart if you have it in your wallet).

Anyway..theres my 2p worth.
 
#16
Gentlemen of the jury.

This is not, as my learned friend asserts, a trifling matter.

Another woman with an apple in her hand was responsible for the fall from grace of all mankind.

The prosecution rests.
 
#17
This case is very serious.

Girl had apple in hand when turning corner. Not eating it just holding it.

Copper stopped her and attempted to give her a FPN fine. She denied the allegded offence and elected to go to court.

Northumbria Police (for whom I pay a large amount of dosh every year) in cahoots with the Crown Prosecution Service, then spent a fortune videoing the corner she turned from both the road and by Helo and fixed wing ac.

If Northumbrias finest could be bothered to respond to an intruder on premises call within 30 mins, or do something other than say here is your crime number for your stolen car I might, just might, feel some sort of sympathy with them. If I wasn't regularily overtaken on the counties roads by police cars breaking speed limits without blue lights on, and if I hadn't watched a panda go through a redlight at roadworks because its driver was as fed up as I was waiting at roadworks I might agree with them.

As it is I am of the opinion (and have wrote to the Advisory committee) that the Officers within both the CPS and Constabulary that pursued this matter with such vigour have displayed such a complete and utter lack of judgement that there must be a serious question mark as to their abilitie to perform their duties to a standard required by the public.
 
#18
woody said:
She went round the corner with one hand on the steering wheel she got caught she got a fine . Tough the rest is just bluster .
If she had gone 'round a corner with one hand on the steering wheel, and the other on, say the gear shift, would she still have been nabbed?

What do one handed drivers get?
 
#19
Balls.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/774655.stm

It's cases like these that do the police real damage. We all turn corners with one hand on the gearstick and millions of smokers are ignored totally. The police get sanctimonious and wave the 'danger' card whenever it suits them, and yet turn a blind eye or commit the same offences themselves everyday of the week. How often have 'roadwars' type programmes wet themselves over chavs doing 40 in a 30 limit and yet ignored the copper doing 50 to catch up with them?

There is risk in everything we do, but it is calculated risk, and we are grown up enough to be sensible about it. If the police want to lose even more support from Joe Public then a few more ridiculous prosecutions like this should do it. You'd think they'd have more sense.
 
#20
Not_Whistlin_Dixie said:
Gentlemen of the jury.

This is not, as my learned friend asserts, a trifling matter.

Another woman with an apple in her hand was responsible for the fall from grace of all mankind.

The prosecution rests.
:lol: :lol:
 
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