Best U.S. President?

#1
Best U.S. President in the last 100 years?

I think it would have to be Ronald Reagan in my view. Won the cold war by outspending the Rooskies. Had a great sense of humour and seems to have been liked personally by anyone who ever met him.

Reagan is credited with restoring America's power and prosperity after a period of stagflation in the wake of the Watergate scandal and the withdrawal from Vietnam. He rejected Détente and escalated the Cold War with the Soviet Union through a military build-up and a firm foreign policy of "peace through strength", but also negotiated with Mikhail Gorbachev to shrink both countries' nuclear arsenals and help bring a peaceful end to the Cold War.

Reagan's persuasive quotable speaking style earned him the sobriquet "The Great Communicator", while his survival of numerous scandals earned him the nickname "The Teflon President"[1]. Notable appointments included Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who was the first woman appointed to the Supreme Court, and Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan.

After leaving office, Reagan wrote a well-received autobiography titled An American Life. In several recent ratings of American presidents, Ronald Reagan ranked high.[1] After suffering from Alzheimer's disease for at least a decade, he died in 2004 at the age of 93 in Bel-Air, California. He is the second longest-lived president in U.S. history, just behind Gerald Ford by 45 days.
It was perhaps Reagan's humor, especially his one-liners, that disarmed his opponents and endeared him to audiences the most. Discussion of his advanced age led him to quip in his second debate against Walter Mondale during the 1984 campaign, "I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience." On his career he joked, "Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book."

Both opponents and supporters noted his "sunny optimism", which was welcomed by many in comparison to his presidential predecessor, the often smiling, but serious, Carter. Reagan once said "The lessons of leadership were the same: hard work, a knowledge of the facts, a willingness to listen and be understanding, a strong sense of duty and direction, and a determination to do your best on behalf of the people you serve."
His wiki entry.


Any other suggestions from our colonial cousins?

[edited to change the title]
 
#2
Ronnie? :frustrated: you have to be Joking... he made Bush Jr look like an intellectual

some quotes:

"Facts are stupid things." –at the 1988 Republican National Convention, attempting to quote John Adams, who said, "Facts are stubborn things"

"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles."

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."

"Approximately 80 percent of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources."

'President Reagan fails to reconize his only black Cabinet member, Housing Secretary Samuel Pierce, at a White House reception
for big city mayors. "How are you, Mr. Mayor?"
he greets him. "I'm glad to meet you. How are things in your city?"

and best of all:

"We have never interfered in the internal government of a country and have no intention of doing so, never have had any thought of that kind."
hmmm - tell that to the poor fookers in latin america..

I'd vote for FDR...
 
#3
George W Bush of course!

possibly the best since Washington.
 
#5
Schleswig-Holstein said:
Ronnie? :frustrated: you have to be Joking... he made Bush Jr look like an intellectual

some quotes:

"Facts are stupid things." –at the 1988 Republican National Convention, attempting to quote John Adams, who said, "Facts are stubborn things"

"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles."

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."

"Approximately 80 percent of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources."

'President Reagan fails to reconize his only black Cabinet member, Housing Secretary Samuel Pierce, at a White House reception
for big city mayors. "How are you, Mr. Mayor?"
he greets him. "I'm glad to meet you. How are things in your city?"

and best of all:

"We have never interfered in the internal government of a country and have no intention of doing so, never have had any thought of that kind."
hmmm - tell that to the poor fookers in latin america..

I'd vote for FDR...
If you do some further research on the guy and read beyond the gaffes you can see he really was a great guy and much underated in my opinion.

Just reading some of that on FDR now....
 
#6
Lincoln follwed by "The Gipper" and Nixon in that order.
 
#7
ctauch said:
Lincoln follwed by "The Gipper" and Nixon in that order.
Come on mate read the question - Lincoln's not allowed ;)

Why Nixon though? Still reading FDR and not got to Nixon yet....
 
#8
Ord_Sgt said:
ctauch said:
Lincoln follwed by "The Gipper" and Nixon in that order.
Come on mate read the question - Lincoln's not allowed ;)

Why Nixon though? Still reading FDR and not got to Nixon yet....
Because I liked the fact he went after the media :D I hate journos (a slight spin on Hardaway's comments)
 
#9
All kidding aside his Foreign policy with respect to USSR and China.

His domestic policy was a bit to liberal for me, with the exception of civil rights and getting rid of the gold standard.

Since Lincoln is not allowed would put my vote for "The Gipper"

What surprises me is that Blacks in the US are predominately Democrats, yet starting with Lincoln up till present the Republican party has done more to create an equal playing field for blacks then the dems ever have. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
 
#10
ctauch said:
All kidding aside his Foreign policy with respect to USSR and China.

His domestic policy was a bit to liberal for me, with the exception of civil rights and getting rid of the gold standard.

Since Lincoln is not allowed would put my vote for "The Gipper"

What surprises me is that Blacks in the US are predominately Democrats, yet starting with Lincoln up till present the Republican party has done more to create an equal playing field for blacks then the dems ever have. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
I'm really not kidding when I say...

Has there been one?
 
#11
I'm with S-H on Ronnie being a plank:

'The battle for the mind of Ronald Reagan was like the trench warfare of World War 1: Never have so many fought so hard for such barren terrain.'

Peggy Noonan, special assistant and speech writer to the man himself 1984-88.

Yes, he outspent the USSR but also created giant budget deficits in the process of a policy that could be seen as working by accident: he spent not because he knew they were weak but because he believed they were strong. Nice guy granted, but we're talking about being President.

He also called the Afghan mujihadin the moral equivalent of America's Founding Fathers. Tell that to those in Helmand now...

I'm with the FDR vote: the New Deal was what was needed at the time and he showed great leadership during the Great Depression and WW2 even if he was arguably a little too cynical about Churchill and a too little cynical about Stalin.

A measure of Presidential effectiveness is how much of their legislation they get through Congress. Using this measure, LBJ comes out surprisingly well, JFK not so good.
 
#12
ctauch said:
All kidding aside his Foreign policy with respect to USSR and China.

His domestic policy was a bit to liberal for me, with the exception of civil rights and getting rid of the gold standard.

Since Lincoln is not allowed would put my vote for "The Gipper"

What surprises me is that Blacks in the US are predominately Democrats, yet starting with Lincoln up till present the Republican party has done more to create an equal playing field for blacks then the dems ever have. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
Johnson's Great Society programme included?
 
#14
OK agree that Nixon achieved some pretty good things - school desegregation as one example but he didn't really achieve anything spectacular, unless I'm missing something.

Indeed he had some pretty bad lapses of judgment in my book - not just breaking into the Watergate offices but taping the conversations arranging it. Although to be fair he did 'lose' that bit of tape.

Can't forgive him for approving the space shuttle program though and effectively setting back the progress into space 30 years.
 
#16
Ord_Sgt said:
OK agree that Nixon achieved some pretty good things - school desegregation as one example
I thought the legal underpinning for that was the Supreme Court case Brown vs. Board of Education (back in 1954 IIRC). The bussing of kids to ensure an ethnic mix may have happened under Nixon but the principle of desegregation had been adopted, if not the practise.

LBJ's rep is over-shadowed by Vietnam which I think is, in many ways, a shame. I don't hold that JFK would have done anything different (...or that the threat to do so got him killed). Musings about scaling down US commitment were down to info that the VC were being beaten; any evidence to the contrary and the President who promised to 'bear any burden' in defence of freedom etc would almost certainly have followed the LBJ route IMO.

Johnson, although by all accounts not a particularly nice guy, was an arch-manipulator of Congress and introduced Medicare and Medicaid. He could be seen as continuing the Rooseveldt tradition. Hard to really see Nixon as a social reformer.
 
#19
LankyPullThrough said:
ctauch said:
All kidding aside his Foreign policy with respect to USSR and China.

His domestic policy was a bit to liberal for me, with the exception of civil rights and getting rid of the gold standard.

Since Lincoln is not allowed would put my vote for "The Gipper"

What surprises me is that Blacks in the US are predominately Democrats, yet starting with Lincoln up till present the Republican party has done more to create an equal playing field for blacks then the dems ever have. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
Johnson's Great Society programme included?
Yeah the Great Society....what a waste, billions of dollars and it did nothing more then enslave generations of blacks to a welfare system.

Johnson was a baffoon.
 
#20
Ford (Gerald, not Harrison)

Steered the US through difficult times, and later appeared on the Simpsons.
 

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