Best Rifle

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by mbwest, Feb 19, 2006.

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  1. Hey, dunno if i'm in the right place but anyway...

    What does everyone think is the best rifle?

    I quite like the H&KG36.
    Any ideas? or suggestion or links where I can look?

    Thanks, M
     
  2. The G36 is a nice rifle, most HK weapons are, however different weapons are better for different reasons. I reckon the AK47 is king simply because of it's absolute reliability in the worst conditions due to it's simplicity.
     
  3. Yeah, i see what your saying but you still have to pick one, you cant very well run round with a choice of rifles on your back, or I suppose you could but thats a different issue!

    Taking into account a balance between design, reliability, rate of fire, accurate distance and obviously any cool gadgets etc. etc.

    Anyone know any good site that have all these kinda details?
     
  4. What is a cool gadget for a rifle? an mp3 player in the bayonet maybe or a mobile phone built into the butt prehaps
     
  5. The L85A2 is a good weapon. Has its drawbacks, but once you cut away the bollocks, it is actually a highly capable weapon. What more do you want? Good accuracy, reliability and a small overall size--I give you the L85.

    G36 (and all variants) are good weapons. Size isn't much of a drawback due to the folding stock, however with stock locked in place (extended) it is fairly large. Smaller versions (Kurtz and Compact) offer smaller sizes, the "C" model of which is of a similar size to the HK53. Problem with smaller models is they sacrifice barrel length for size.

    AK variants. Highly reliable. My 6 year old niece could fire one. A good point/pull interface with little--if any--maintenance needed. Accuracy is crap.

    M16 (AR-15). Even though it is a dated and somewhat flawed design (ref: the gas parts), it is fairly reliable once properly looked after. Lacks the overall reliability of the above three weapons, however the M16 series and its variants are the most-produced 5.56mm rifle in the world. Must have been doing something right! A favourite of special forces the world over (granted, I believe the SAS are edging towards the HK G36 nowadays).

    The SIG 55x range are supposed to be very reliable and sexay. No more information on them though :x

    In short: the "best weapon"? There are two main prerequisites for the "ideal gun", and these are:

    (1) Reliability. The ability for a weapon to withstand the elements and still churn out lead in the enemy's direction.
    (2) The ability for the soldier to carry and use the weapon in a variety of scenarios; this includes the soldier's ability to shoot properly (marksmanship) and his knowledge of the weapon system.

    With regards to that, I would say that virtually most rifles would fit the bill. Remember, a lot of fans and users of the AR-15 would say that is all that is needed for a good rifle, however there are others that are technologically superior and infinately more reliable (G36 for starters!); this doesn't stop the AR-15 from being a good family of weapons though.

    The "best" is a subjective opinion. Much like how the USMC say they are the best.

    In short: if I had to pick ONE rifle out of any rifle in the world.....I'd go for a G36. Accuracy, reliability and useability.
     
  6. Dunno what it was, but the one used by that IRA cnut at me in '76, Aughnacloy, was fcuking fantastic. Mind you it might have been the Poteen as well. W@nker.
     
  7. thanks for the views, keep it all coming!
    Yes MP3 player and mobile phone built in would be great, it would really help my hectic lifestyle. Maybe a mirror and a little case to keep my lippy and mascara! ;)
    Although I was thinking more like the extra large mags i know you can get on the G36 (holds 100rnds) and any other cool stuff like that, but yeh I suppose a built in MP3 would be pretty cool!
     
  8. Why's a girl worrying about the best weapon? Dreams of "GI Jane" or are you an airsofter?
     
  9. Imagine that a girl with PMT and armed with a G36 and a 100 round mag!! jesus wept
     
  10. I'm not a bird, well not on weekdays anyway!
    I was being sarcastic about the lippy etc. come on, you army bods are supposed to be the most sarcastic people on the planet, I thought you'd pick up on that one.

    The AKs great and all that regarding reliability, but as far as i know it's shit accuracy which is too big a problem!
     
  11. i know some maniac s put an mp3 player in a ak mag . the yanks seem to lead the world in stuff to stick on rifles though.
     
  12. The Beta C mag is nothing new.

    Originally designed for the M16.

    Oh, did i mention it's crap?
     
  13. I would say the AK-74, nice little rifle and built to last through tough Russian conditions.
     
  14. I would worry about the soldiers more than the russian "conditions".

    They'll probably end up spilling their vodka all over the rifle whilst simultaneously smoking and dropping hot fag ash onto the pool of spillt vodka.
     
  15. AK-74? Doesn't that have the same flaws? bad accuracy?
    Why is the Beta C mag crap?