Best military unit the world has ever seen?

#41
SickbayRanger said:
goodson8193 said:
RAf regiment any era....incoming....
They have never lost an airfield (or banana) yet..
Yes they did in the Greek Islands 1944
 
#43
Fallschirmjager said:
Impossible to answer really considering how technology has changed in 2000 years.

But by far the most efficient was the Roman Legions. Not only did they have infantry; they had cavalry, engineers, logistics & various other agencies. They were virtually unbeatable for centuries. Only the lack of unification and the power struggles of Rome put paid to them.

Much of the structure of the British Army is based on the Roman Army.
I thought they pretty much binned off home grown cavalry in favour of mercenary horse post the marian reforms, and prior to that they weren't up to much.

They didn't have sappers per se, they were just trained to carry out basic engineering tasks, whilst specialist officers (much like the Royal Engineers of the Napoleonic Era) were brought in to direct any complex task.

As for being unbeatable, they were spanked quite regularly, even in their glory days (the Carthagians managed to capture Rome, remember). The difference was in mentality. The Carthaginians capture Rome, boo hoo. The Romans (now miffed) capture Carthage. Can anyone point to Carthage on a map?
 
#44
Deleted 20555 said:
LancePrivateJones said:
Possibly the Viet Cong.
If history tells us anything it's "don't ever screw with the Vietnamese" everyone who tried it came off second best.
Same could be said of the Afgans, re Mujahideen, gave the great bear a headache for a number of years (ok supported by the yanks). There forefathers gave us some stick as well.
 
#46
Surely for pride's sake one should think one's own Unit the best ;)
 
#47
gingwarr said:
I thought they pretty much binned off home grown cavalry in favour of mercenary horse post the marian reforms, and prior to that they weren't up to much.

A good commander always uses what is at his disposal.

They didn't have sappers per se, they were just trained to carry out basic engineering tasks, whilst specialist officers (much like the Royal Engineers of the Napoleonic Era) were brought in to direct any complex task.

Basic? Like building forts, barracks, camps, bridges, palisades, siege engines, roads, and the likes.

As for being unbeatable, they were spanked quite regularly, even in their glory days (the Carthagians managed to capture Rome, remember). The difference was in mentality.

I wouldn't say they were regularly spanked.
 
#49
Maybe this should be divided into 'ancient' and 'modern' ?
 
#51
In my opinion a group of unsung heroes are the Mindener BurgerBattalion who were all Kaisertreue civilians, who fought openly and secretlyagainst the brownshirts and later the nazi regime from 1933 to 1945 costing the lives of most boys and men in KreisMinden, the survivors helped form the new german police and security forces.As a tribute they are the only society or club allowed to parade with with rifles at the slope in germany, which they do every 2 years at their Freischiessen. Next month is the 250th anniversary of the Battle of Minden, there will be celebrations in the town all month, even one of the last remaining RAOB lodges in germany will be on parade in full regalia
 
#52
Any military unit is ultimately only as effective as the man leading it. One problem faced by Roman army was that the political system sometimes allowed incompetent generals control of legions.

Man for man, unit for unit the Roman army was the best on the planet. It was a disciplined killing machine that chewed up anything that got in its way. Legionaries were hand picked, exhaustively trained and superbly skilled. They were also fit and as hard as nails. Their habitual long service also meant that the majority of troops were very experienced and mature in outlook and behaviour.

As for their engineering skills; we still drive on some of the roads they built. Every ordinary Legionary was at least the equivalent of a modern Assault Pioneer.
 
#53
nark said:
1st Battalion The King's Regiment - an elite in their own right.
Could defeat any known enemy by stealing all their kit before the war even starts...

Perfect OPSEC through unintelligible scouse on the net.
 
#54
tattybadger said:
The Spartans.

A fighting force that doesn't know when to withdraw and fight another day is ultimately no good.

True discipline is the ability to disengage and fall back, as well as the ability to fight to the bitter end if necessary.
 
#55
Again, 'best' needs a qualifier however, here's my twopennyworth:

Ancient: Romans or Spartans. Both had very good reasons to be top but for me it is the Spartans total immersion in soldiering from a very young age that gave them a reputation that, alone, made them almost invincible on the battlefield.

Middle ages: Not my forte' but will take the easy option and go for the Knights Templar. Closely folowed by English/ Welsh Longbowmen

recent historical: Slims forgotten 14th in Burma. Having been whipped by the Japs and with scant resouces and support from home (sound familiar), Slim and his Army 'learned' how to outfight the enemy in the Jungle (something that was considered impossible at the time) and went on to totally annihilate them and drive them from Burma. In so doing, they also paved the way and developed jungle fighting techniques and special forces that were and remain the envy of the world.

Edited to add: Read Slim's - Defeat into Victory. One of our greatest ever Generals - vastly underrated - and, by what I have read, a bloody good bloke with it :salut:

Recent: 2 Section, Thetford annual camp 2000 - we were unbeatable and a with morale so high you could get dizzy just looking at it! :wink:

Current: Slightly biased but, The Rifles, of course :D
 
#60
Warmington-on-Sea Home Guard.

Either that or 42 Commando RMs.

Or 2 Para.
 

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