Berkley vs USMC

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  1. The Mayor of Berkley has decided to close the USMC recruiting officeGet out of town ! The original story is posted below, but look at the response:

    Local businessman bites back
    Dear Mayor Bates:

    In that you and your city have chosen to gravely insult the brave men and women, who have indeed bought you that right with their blood, I am informing you that my company will no longer do business with any of our current suppliers located in the Berkeley, California, metro area.

    In that my company is an international resort real estate development, and do business with and am associated with, developers and investors worldwide, I am informing all of my contacts, associates and patrons that we will no longer do any business of any sort with anyone living in the Berkeley area.

    In that we/MDG Resorts are currently building a state of the art mega-yacht marina, all of the suppliers of Marina equipment, all owners of Yachts, all suppliers of yacht materials and supplies, all yacht brokers and all tangential yacht business purveyors will likewise be informed that we will not do any business whatsoever with anyone from the Berkeley area.

    Likewise all suppliers of building materials, both interior and exterior, currently associated with any of our several resort developments (Brisamar 300+ villas and 200+ condos: Porto Hussong, 500+ condos,180 slip mega-yacht marina) both of which I might add have international recognition by virtue of glowing reports in Robb Report, Wall Street Journal, Yacht World, Forbes.

    I will likewise inform all of our investors, most of whom are very wealthy yacht owners, casino owners, high net worth international businessmen, of our decision to essentially boycott all products and providers located in, or associated with in any way whatsoever,Berkeley, California.

    Trust me when I say that having been in the real estate development business for over 35 years, our list of contacts and associates is long and very, very impressive. We, and I personally, are going to recommend that they ALL, along with us, boycott your city, its purveyors, suppliers, businesses, and charaties of every kind.

    You have every right to choose to take the obnoxious anti-military stance that you have taken, and as stated, that right was bought for you with the blood of better men than you.

    I, too, have every right to do all that I can to insure that your city suffers consequences arising from that obnoxious, sickening stance.


    Brian G. Dennard


    Meridian Development Group, LLC
    619 807 2444
    [hr] original story------

    By Doug Oakley

    Article Launched: 01/30/2008 01:48:16 PM PST

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    Council says Marines unwelcome in townHey-hey, ho-ho, the Marines in Berkeley have got to go.
    That's the message from the Berkeley City Council, which voted 6-3 Tuesday night to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station "is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

    In addition, the council voted to explore enforcing its law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation against the Marines because of the military's don't ask, don't tell policy. And it officially encouraged the women's peace group Code Pink to impede the work of the Marines in the city by protesting in front of the station.

    In a separate item, the council voted 8-1 to give Code Pink a designated parking space in front of the recruiting station once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week from noon to 4 p.m.

    Councilman Gordon Wozniak opposed both items.

    The Marines have been in Berkeley for a little more than a year, having moved from Alameda in December of 2006. For about the past four months, Code Pink has been protesting in front of the station.

    "I believe in the Code Pink cause. The Marines don't belong here, they shouldn't have come here, and they should leave," said Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates after votes were cast.

    A Marines representative did not respond to requests for comment.

    The resolution telling the Marines they are unwelcome and directing the city attorney to explore issues of sexual orientation discrimination was brought to the council by the city's Peace and Justice commission.
    The recommendation to give Code Pink a parking space for protesting and a free sound permit was brought by council members Linda Maio and Max Anderson.

    Code Pink on Wednesday started circulating petitions to put a measure on the November ballot in Berkeley that would make it more difficult to open military recruiting offices near homes, parks, schools, churches libraries or health clinics. The group needs 5,000 signatures to make the ballot.

    Even though the council items passed, not everyone is happy with the work of Code Pink. Some employees and owners of businesses near the Marines office have had enough of the group and its protests.

    "My husband's business is right upstairs, and this (protesting) is bordering on harassment," Dori Schmidt told the council. "I hope this stops."

    An employee of a nearby business who asked not to be identified said Wednesday the elderly Code Pink protesters are aggressive, take up parking spaces, block the sidewalk with their yoga moves, smoke in the doorways, and are noisy.

    "Most of the people around here think they're a joke," the woman said.

    Wozniak said he was opposed to giving Code Pink a parking space because it favors free speech rights of one group over another.

    "There's a line between protesting and harassing, and that concerns me," Wozniak said. "It looks like we are showing favoritism. We have to respect the other side, and not abuse their rights. This is not good policy."

    Ninety-year-old Fran Rachel, a Code Pink protester who spoke at the council meeting, said the group's request for a parking space and noise permit was especially important because the Marines are recruiting soldiers who may die in an unjust war.

    "This is very serious," Rachel said. "This isn't a game; it's mass murder. There's a sickness of silence of people not speaking out against the war. We have to do this."

    Anderson, a former Marine who said he was "drummed out" of the corps when he took a stand against the Vietnam War, said he'd love to see the Marines high tale it out of town.

    "We are confronted with an organization that can spend billions of dollars on propaganda," Anderson said. "This is not Okinawa here; we're involved in a naked act of aggression. If we can provide a space for ordinary people to express themselves against this kind of barbarity, then we should be doing it."

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  2. Id be interested to hear his real story, i thought that any marine of the vietnam-era was jailed not drummed out,if he refused to serve in Vietnam, though i take it he may have a different p.o.v.

    Funny he didnt want to go or stood up against the war, yet his mates i guess went. If i was the Marines i would leave,then when the local economy starts to falter they can say..see.
  3. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Berkley is a weird pinko place with lots of money. I was near there on 11 Sep 01. The council tried to stop it's fire fighters (not firemen in Berkley) from putting American Flags on their tenders, they backtracked later and came up with some health and safety b@llox about flags being a fire hazard.
  4. Show's over. It appears that even amongst hippies, money talks and bullsh1t walks.

    I particularly like this quote, and I think BuggerAll will find it amusing too since he's been there:

    To give those who haven't been there a frame of reference, imagine saying that regarding St John's Wood in London and you'll get an idea of how preposterous these people are.
  5. Gosh-Code Pink are a terribly tedious looking bunch aren't they.

    I bet the lion share of their members don't wax either.
  6. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Odd isn't it Code Pink protest against the USMC but they are quite happy to tolerate IRA pubs in their midst.

    OK the pub I'm thinking of is in SF but Berkley is close enough to it.
  7. I don't know why that made me laugh, but it did.
  8. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    It's amazing how quickly these peacniks degenerate to violence in pursuit of what they want.
  9. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    I've just looked at the Code pink website Amazing. I love the Don't enlist, stay and kiss campaign which encourages wimmin to mount anti-recruitment events outside recruiting centres with the offer to kiss the potential recruits. fkin ell. One of those dread full bints advancing on me and trying for a kiss would be more than enough to send me flying into the arms of the nearest recruiting sergeant in search of sanctuary!

    They are also holding a hunger strike encamp outside Speaker Nancy Pelosi's gaff. That must be a bit of turn up for Pelosi, by any normal standards she is a dyed in the wool West Coast pinko.
  10. Typical childish response by a bunch of idiots, who can't wait to resort to violence when they get a little frustrated.

    Yes, love, who is it again the secures that right? With their blood if neccesary? Also it doesn't mean "you get to say what you want". With Rights their comes RESPONSIBILITIES.

    But of course this bunch of trouble makers will not realise this. For them service to others and their country is a joke.
  11. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    "Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share" so said Ronnie. I agree with the sentiment, but of course it is not just the USMC who bay the bill it's Joe or Tommy or Jock... Still the Jane Fonda wannabes are free to abuse the people who keep them free.