Belgium as a failed state

There's so much irony in all this I'm surprised the pikeys haven't nicked it for its scrap value.
 
There's so much irony in all this I'm surprised the pikeys haven't nicked it for its scrap value.
I think it got pretty well asset stripped in 1914-18 and 1940-45.
 
When I was at SHAPE Belgium in the late seventies I remember speaking to a Brit civilian worker who was an ex ww2 squaddy who had married a Belgium women and settled down there.

He said that in 1940 the Belgium army established a defensive line on the Albert canal and declared "They shall not pass".

The only problem was that the Germans had already passed two hours before and were heading for Brussels and the channel ports.
The behaviour of flemish units in front of the German attack is the topic of several studies in Belgium.

After the war, a number of Flemish units were graded as having had a "not honourable" behaviour during what is called the 18 days campaign as they had opposed no resistance.
 
I hope you aren't including Stella Artois in that statement - horrible, horrible beer.

Back on topic, why the hell does Belgium even exist? I'm not sure that anyone other than bureaucrats want it to. Almost nothing in common between Wallonia and Flanders.

Let it split.
Stella may be commercialised almost out of its original conception - but it is still a pleasant drink on a hot day .
And I despise my ex- wife so her getting a slapping, even if just wishful thinking, pleases me.

Belgium brews very good beers.
 

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I hope you aren't including Stella Artois in that statement - horrible, horrible beer.

Back on topic, why the hell does Belgium even exist? I'm not sure that anyone other than bureaucrats want it to. Almost nothing in common between Wallonia and Flanders.

Let it split.
Actually Stella in Belgium isn't quite as rats pissy as it is here. Having lived for 18 months in Brussels I can honestly say that the Belgians produce some superb beers.

As to why does Belgium exist I think that's a bit of a mystery to the Belgians, the Flemish and the Walloons really don't get on a lot and both have quite strong independence movements. In fact it's one of the reasons I suspect that Scots claiming that an independent Scotland would get rapid entry to the EU are mistaken, it would be a monumental green light to the breakup of Belgium and possibly other federated EU states.
 
Actually Stella in Belgium isn't quite as rats pissy as it is here. Having lived for 18 months in Brussels I can honestly say that the Belgians produce some superb beers.

As to why does Belgium exist I think that's a bit of a mystery to the Belgians, the Flemish and the Walloons really don't get on a lot and both have quite strong independence movements. In fact it's one of the reasons I suspect that Scots claiming that an independent Scotland would get rapid entry to the EU are mistaken, it would be a monumental green light to the breakup of Belgium and possibly other federated EU states.
All depends on the EU 'Gnomes of Schumann'. Break up Belgium on linguistic lines and you've got majority French-speaking Brussels stranded on the wrong side of the border, so they could then turn it into an independent, EU-ruled city-state. The bureaucracy would be eye-watering!
 
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All depends on the EU 'Gnomes of Schumann'. Break up Belgium on linguistic lines and you've got majority French-speaking Brussels stranded on the wrong side of the border, so they could then turn into an independent, EU-ruled city-state. The bureaucracy would be eye-watering!
With a califat in the middle composed of Molembeek, Anderlecht, part of Schaerbeek, part of Saint Gilles and most of the Heysel....
 

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With a califat in the middle composed of Molembeek, Anderlecht, part of Schaerbeek, part of Saint Gilles and most of the Heysel....
No kidding, there are some areas on the metro routes that make Riyadh look less of a monoculture.
 
Actually Stella in Belgium isn't quite as rats pissy as it is here. Having lived for 18 months in Brussels I can honestly say that the Belgians produce some superb beers.
Tomorrow I'm off to Eupen and first stop Aldi to buy their Abdijbier. Magic stuff and cheaper than the brand names, also a lot better than the designer ratsp1ss produced in Germany.
Belgium, beer, friten, chocolate and FN. What's not to like?

AL. Aldis pale beer is labeled Blond, but it's still safe to drink. ;)
 
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I hope you aren't including Stella Artois in that statement - horrible, horrible beer.

Back on topic, why the hell does Belgium even exist? I'm not sure that anyone other than bureaucrats want it to. Almost nothing in common between Wallonia and Flanders.

Let it split.
The old answer is still the best: it was invented by the British to annoy the French.
 
Stella may be commercialised almost out of its original conception - but it is still a pleasant drink on a hot day .
And I despise my ex- wife so her getting a slapping, even if just wishful thinking, pleases me.

Belgium brews very good beers.
Stella, Jupiler, Carling, San Miguel etc are copycat lagers that can be made in any brewery/factory in the world. And are.
Add nice fonts, glassware and branding, chill it so it cannot taste of anything, and job done. Improve the recipe or improve the marketing? I wonder which works best?
The best thing about Belgian brewing is the sheer variety of beer making going on in a relatively small part of the world.
 
Even the Wallonians speak French differently, causes minor irritation to those south of the border.
If you drive the motorway between Dunkirk and Lille, the signs for “French Flanders” remind you that this is a regional thing. The French trying to be more Flandrian than the guys over the border sometimes comes across as a point stretched too far. It seems to me me to be more “up yours” to Paris than cosying to Belgium.
 
The behaviour of flemish units in front of the German attack is the topic of several studies in Belgium.

After the war, a number of Flemish units were graded as having had a "not honourable" behaviour during what is called the 18 days campaign as they had opposed no resistance.
Well the garrison of Eben Emaul didn't do much better. Although several apparently joined the Waffen SS later in the war.
 
The old answer is still the best: it was invented by the British to annoy the French.
The throne of Belgium was first offered to the son of the king Louis-Philippe of France who turned it down and the French Armée du Nord was instrumental in the defeat of the Dutch in Belgium in 1831.
 
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Well the garrison of Eben Emaul didn't do much better.
While the garrison of Fort d'Aubin-Neufchâteau held out, under constant assault, until 21 May.

 
Tomorrow I'm off to Eupen and first stop Aldi to buy their Abdijbier. Magic stuff and cheaper than the brand names, also a lot better than the designer ratsp1ss produced in Germany.
Belgium, beer, friten, chocolate and FN. What's not to like?

AL. Aldis pale beer is labeled Blond, but it's still safe to drink. ;)
Both Aldi and Lidl on the continent do a very good strong beer (7.8%) that you can't get in the UK. Everytime I go to France (which hopefully will be on Monday week - Boris's daft edicts notwithstanding) I throw a case in the boot of the car on the way back.
 

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