Being an Officer isn't just pure leadership, or is it?

#2
In all seriousness though- the forum should be here for you to ask those more detailed questions AFTER doing all your initial research, and making a genuine effort to find out about this career you profess to be so keen on. It just seems lazy to me to ask a question which has been answered so many times before, and is answered in so much of the readily available resources eg. former threads on ARRSE, the Army website, the careers office, god forbid even books in the nearest public library!

For someone who thinks they are going to complete a Phd in Astrophysics, you don't seem to be terribly capable of independent research, 14 or not.
Hello, reading material is all well and jolly. But if you can ask a person who is or has done it then why not ask them?

By the way I have drawled through a lot of material for this information, including the Army website and other sources. Even for non officer related questions.

Independent research was the initial course of action, now the time is to ask questions to the people with the know how.
 
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#4
Independent research was the initial course of action, now the time is to ask questions to the people with the know how.
That's all well and good, but your question is incredibly generic and shows no evidence of research or thought. Perhaps try asking some more detailed questions about areas you are unsure about; that may result in more willingness to reply from those who know these things.
 
#5
As an Officer, what are your responsibilities and duties?

What will you be expected to do after passing out from the factory? Etc etc.
To cut about adding tone and splendour to what is otherwise a rather miserable organisation full of shouty chaps with an overly **** approach to things like haircuts, dogs and silk-lined combats. They get pretty grumpy about punctuality as well, which is all a bit of a drag really.
 
#6
To cut about adding tone and splendour to what is otherwise a rather miserable organisation full of shouty chaps with an overly **** approach to things like haircuts, dogs and silk-lined combats. They get pretty grumpy about punctuality as well, which is all a bit of a drag really.
For the sake of simplicity, the next time I'm on ARRSE with a PC I'm going to delete this thread.
 
#10
I don't see a reason for me to respond to the previous post, other than to state the following.

I'm human, I make mistakes, no matter how bone they maybe, I will always try to better myself after realising them.

I'm still binning this thread by the way.
 
#11
Good and can you do us all a favor and not start anymore threads! It would deprive us all of laughs but it would save us all a lot of hassle in replying as we feel so sorry for you!
 
#14
The Commandant at RMAS when I went through (an Agile & Bolton Wanderer by the name of Graham IIRC) defined Officer qualities as the following*:

Pride (in Regiment, self, & profession, but never arrogance);
Integrity (not just knowing what is the right thing to do, but doing it even when it is not popular);
Learning (there is always something new to learn to enhance one's own credibility & understanding of others);
Humour (including the ability not to take one's self too seriously)
Service (to others);
Courage (moral and physical - I fell down on the latter a bit because I'm a bit of a fat biff).

These qualities are not unique to Officers, to the Army or even to the Forces, but for me are pretty important. The fact I remember them so vividly 21 years on says a bit.

The other two guidelines I remember are "horses first, then Troopers, then Officers" and "be first in the queue for the shit stuff and last for the good stuff".

*note as naughty Officer Cadets we had to have a mnemonic for this as the Commandant was rather keen on popping out from behind a tree on Barossa resplendent in kilt & whiskers and asking what his six points were. We remembered them by "People In Lines Have Small Cocks", which did not please said Commandant when an OCdt replied with the mnemonic rather than the points.

I also remember that I've promised msr to find the card with the points & the Commandant's whiskers printed theron, scan it & post it here. Feckin boxes of crap all over the place, I really should go through them but to be frank taking MasterPlume swimming/to the park/off on his bike are a bit more important these days!
 
#16
IMHO

There is no such idealism as "an officer" in much the same way there is no such prototype as "a Soldier". Be yourself, listen, learn and look after your boys with an eye on the 2 up. Charlatans are found out very quickly.
 
#17
LDJ. I'm not into the wahing nonsense as I'm not interested in bullshitting people.

Seriously though, I'll mind myself If I was you. The clocks ticking and you ain't getting any younger.
 
#18
Who are you to tell me to mind myself? If indeed you are 14 what outstanding things have you done with your short life to make you think you can talk like that!?

You have no idea how old I am, so why say that? You are looking for a come back and that was the best you could do..... Pathetic!
 
#19
Who are you to tell me to mind myself? If indeed you are 14 what outstanding things have you done with your short life to make you think you can talk like that!?

You have no idea how old I am, so why say that? You are looking for a come back and that was the best you could do..... Pathetic!
Dealing with the unruly youth is a quality you will need! Don't fail too early!!!