Been deferred from joining for 3 years, damn it

#1
Hi, can anyone help? I applied to join last year but was deferred on medical grounds. Does anyone know if there is usually any possibility of the Army reducing the term? I can go into further detail.

Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks, JP
 
#2
I think you can appeal (although I might be wrong) - how's that for the vaguest possible answer? ;)

Did they not say anything to you about having an appeal when they deferred you?
 
#3
Well, they will have had their reasons...
 
#4
I wrote back to the Senior MO in Glencorse and tried to explain the position, but still no joy. Just came as a bit of a dissapointment, as you can understand and seemed a bit harsh in my circumstances. It was all about some pills I was prescribed, of which I only took about 3 weeks supply. The letter I received back explained that new recruits must be physically and mentally fit, etc, etc.

Which I suppose is fair enough. 3 years seemed a bit excessive to me though. I'll be nearly 24 when I can reapply.
 
#5
I take it you were taking some form of prozac due to an inbalance in you brain chemistry?
 
#6
They were antidepressants. Fluoxetine I think is how you spell it. The very lowest dosage. It all came about as I was unemployed and have always had dead-end jobs since leaving school, so I went to the docs as I was feeling a bit low and these are what he prescribed. Wish I hadn't bloody bothered as they didn't seem to have any effect anyway. I was only taking 1 every other day.

As soon as I'd looked into a career in the Army I began feeling more positive. At last, not another dead-beat job. I have all my GCSE's at C's and above but have no real training in anything. So I thought things were going to change on the job front. Guess I'll be in crappy jobs for a further 2 years until I can reapply.
 
#7
Join the TA in the mean time (may even get deployed) or go for a special constables position, the army like that and it might give you some strengths you can utilise in the armed forces. Are their any pcso vacancies in your area?

Navy and air force may be more lenient (I doubt it though)....sorry
 

chrisg46

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#8
TA is def recommended. We have a guy who for medical reasons has been told he wont get in the regs. Nevertheless he has now deployed twice and served well. If you join your nearest TA infantry unit (or whatever corps you feel like), in three years you are almost certain to be deployed...
 
#9
Thanks for the ideas. Unfortunately I hit a brick wall with the TA also. I was told that they use the same medical proceedures as the Regs. Or words to that effect anyway. My local TA unit told me I could contact them 6 months before my deferral period was up, but not before.

As for trying the special constable route: I have a criminal record from a minor offense 18 months ago.

What are PCSO's?
 
#10
Thanks for the ideas. Unfortunately I hit a brick wall with the TA also. I was told that they use the same medical proceedures as the Regs. Or words to that effect anyway. My local TA unit told me I could contact them 6 months before my deferral period was up, but not before.

As for trying the special constable route: I have a criminal record from a minor offense 18 months ago.

What are PCSO's?
 
#11
Police community support officers

Was the offence minor?

If so, then under the 1974 rehabilitation of offenders act you should be ok..... just try it and see what they say (spec constables don't get pay but they earn an allowance).

It'll get you off the streets..... and, as I said, will give you valuable experience! Where, geographically, are you if I may ask?
 
#12
Ta will also think twice due to the prozac/ fluxetine its the same drug .Cant think why though it normally takes 6 weeks to work anyway so you did not even take it long enough to have any effect . Certainly apply to the ta normally try to fudge things like this if they possible can .Took prozac a few years ago nearly stoped me being deployed :evil: .
 
#14
Woody do you think it would work if I applied to the TA without telling them about the medical history first? Or do you think I should just wait and save myself the embarrassment? Don't want to waste their time or get poeples backs up.
 
#16
Jonny5isalive said:
Woody do you think it would work if I applied to the TA without telling them about the medical history first
This is just stupid. They'll check to see if you've applied to the army before. Finding you've lied on the application forms would not be a good move and probably black mark you from joining in three years.

I admire your determination and in some cases people who are un-successfull in the Regs can make a career in the TA. However, the TA is not a dumping ground for biffs and porkers. The modern TA should have the same standards as the Regular Army.
 

chrisg46

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#18
Jonny5isalive said:
Thanks for the ideas. Unfortunately I hit a brick wall with the TA also. I was told that they use the same medical proceedures as the Regs. Or words to that effect anyway. My local TA unit told me I could contact them 6 months before my deferral period was up, but not before.

As for trying the special constable route: I have a criminal record from a minor offense 18 months ago.

What are PCSO's?
PCSO's are police community support officers. Not strictly police but not strictly civvies either. Can you elaborate on the crim conviction a bit?

I would suggest you check to see if you can get a second opinion from the docs. We have two supporting our unit, one is a real stickler and rejects anyone for any reason they can possibly find. The other is chilled out and realistic. Unless there is a def reason for you to not be able to soldier (mental health missing limbs etc) you can get in (actually does explain a lot in some cases though).
 
#19
The criminal offence was theft. Trying to put it behind me. Kept my nose clean so far.

When my application was rejected, I replied to the MO asking for a reconsideration at the time and he just replied with the same content as the first letter he sent me, basically word for word. Is it worth contacting them again after a year or maybe 2 years or will it be a waste of time?
 

chrisg46

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#20
was thinking more like a different dorctor. If the same doctor chnaged tunes he would basically be admitting he made a mistake, and doctors dont do that do they...

What was the sentence for theft? I think if it was a custodial then you might have to forget it altogether (no legal expert though)
 

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